Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

["Edmund Fitzgerald" <ef@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Let me say it again.  Pure Horeshit.  There are no organizations of
>> Christian crusaders running amuck all over the world beheading and
>> blowing up whoever they please....
>
> Not currently, we don't.  But the "Christian" crusades were just as
> violent and just as un-Christian as Islamic terrorists are un-Islamic.
>
>> You and Rosie appear to have similar views vis a vie Christians being as
>> big a threat as Muslim terrorists.  I think if you would give her a fair
>> chance she could probably convince you that George Bush really did blow
>> up the World Trade Center buildings.
>
> I don't know what Rosie's views are but I can tell you that a certain
> segment of Christians (or rather, people who claim to be Christians) are
> very dangerous to our nation.  These hard-line, right-wing, authoritarians
> would happily march us all into a dictatorship and think they'd done a
> good thing.  They are the people who *still* support the Bush War II.
>
>>> Where we make the biggest mistake is trying to impose that same morality
>>> on a people that simply don't understand it (or our way of life).
>
> This is quite true.  We have no business trying to impose our system of
> government on any other country.  Doing so, as well as supporting ruthless
> dictators, are the primary reasons we're at odds with the Muslim world
> now.
>
>>> What you're proposing is utterly preposterous.  I have no interest in
>>> going to Mecca, and neither does my wife.  My younger son wants to visit
>>> Egypt though.  I wouldn't volunteer for service in Iraq (or Afghanistan)
>>> as either a peace-keeper or employee of an international logistics (or
>>> oil) company.  You wouldn't be able to pay me enough to go there.
>
> I have no interest in going to Iraq or most other Middle Eastern
> countries.  However, there's a fair chance I may visit Egypt for a day or
> two next year.  A friend has invited us on a Holy Land tour which includes
> a visit to Egypt.  My wife says Cairo is beautiful. It would be
> interesting to see the pyramids.
>
>> I know what I would do - I would not hesitate to kill a terriorist to
>> save the lives of your family or any other innocents.  I understand we
>> are in a global war with Islamic Jihadist...
>
> Naah.  We're in the middle of a national civil war which the Idiot
> precipitated by illegally invading a non-agressor state.
>
>> And people are geting killed.  Not in great numbers...
>
> 100,000 plus civilians don't amount to much?
>


You and Olson should put your heads together and start a rock pile.



>> First off I've not convinced pouring water down someone's nose is
>> torture.
>
> Water boarding is torture.
>
>> Liberals, and perhaps yourself, tend to think anything that that makes
>> someone the least bit uncomfortable is torture...
>
> Have you been on the receiving end of CIA "discomfort" lately?



No.  But if it could save your life I would be willing to pour water down a
terroist's nose even though hundreds, maybe even thousands who know you
would be begging me not to do it.


>
>> Islamic Jihadist, as you may have noticed, behead their captives,
>> mutilate their bodies, and hang them up on public display. Liberals, for
>> some reason, don't seem to consider what the Jihadists do to be torture,
>> or at least you never hear one say so.
>
> You miss the point.  It's not that we believe terrorists are good. It's
> that we don't want our country to become a terrorist state by emulating
> them.


Oh please.



>
>>> I'm pretty handy with Bokken, Katana and Wakasachi.  Kendo is the "way
>>> of the sword".
>
> The reader should be aware that Olson routinely claims all kinds of
> knowledge and experience which he doesn't have -- from piloting 737
> airliners to levitating ladders to being a black belt in typography.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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