Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

["Roland Moore" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>Water boarding is torture.

There has been a lot of dancing around this issue. It seems that U.S.
military officers were held to account for doing this in times past. Getting
rid of the tapes recently of prisoners being water boarded a few years back
seems to show someone was worried about some sort of fall out over it. Seems
like everyone needs to decide what the rules are and either follow them or
suffer the consequences. If not better keep it a real secret until you get
water boarded and have to cough it up.

"Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > Let me say it again.  Pure Horeshit.  There are no organizations of
> > Christian crusaders running amuck all over the world beheading and
> > blowing up whoever they please....
>
> Not currently, we don't.  But the "Christian" crusades were just as
> violent and just as un-Christian as Islamic terrorists are
> un-Islamic.
>
> > You and Rosie appear to have similar views vis a vie Christians
> > being as big a threat as Muslim terrorists.  I think if you would
> > give her a fair chance she could probably convince you that George
> > Bush really did blow up the World Trade Center buildings.
>
> I don't know what Rosie's views are but I can tell you that a certain
> segment of Christians (or rather, people who claim to be Christians)
> are very dangerous to our nation.  These hard-line, right-wing,
> authoritarians would happily march us all into a dictatorship and
> think they'd done a good thing.  They are the people who *still*
> support the Bush War II.
>
> >> Where we make the biggest mistake is trying to impose that same
> >> morality on a people that simply don't understand it (or our way
> >> of life).
>
> This is quite true.  We have no business trying to impose our system
> of government on any other country.  Doing so, as well as supporting
> ruthless dictators, are the primary reasons we're at odds with the
> Muslim world now.
>
> >> What you're proposing is utterly preposterous.  I have no interest
> >> in going to Mecca, and neither does my wife.  My younger son wants
> >> to visit Egypt though.  I wouldn't volunteer for service in Iraq
> >> (or Afghanistan) as either a peace-keeper or employee of an
> >> international logistics (or oil) company.  You wouldn't be able to
> >> pay me enough to go there.
>
> I have no interest in going to Iraq or most other Middle Eastern
> countries.  However, there's a fair chance I may visit Egypt for a
> day or two next year.  A friend has invited us on a Holy Land tour
> which includes a visit to Egypt.  My wife says Cairo is beautiful.
> It would be interesting to see the pyramids.
>
> > I know what I would do - I would not hesitate to kill a terriorist
> > to save the lives of your family or any other innocents.  I
> > understand we are in a global war with Islamic Jihadist...
>
> Naah.  We're in the middle of a national civil war which the Idiot
> precipitated by illegally invading a non-agressor state.
>
> > And people are geting killed.  Not in great numbers...
>
> 100,000 plus civilians don't amount to much?
>
> > First off I've not convinced pouring water down someone's nose is
> > torture.
>
> Water boarding is torture.
>
> > Liberals, and perhaps yourself, tend to think anything that that
> > makes someone the least bit uncomfortable is torture...
>
> Have you been on the receiving end of CIA "discomfort" lately?
>
> > Islamic Jihadist, as you may have noticed, behead their captives,
> > mutilate their bodies, and hang them up on public display.
> > Liberals, for some reason, don't seem to consider what the
> > Jihadists do to be torture, or at least you never hear one say so.
>
> You miss the point.  It's not that we believe terrorists are good.
> It's that we don't want our country to become a terrorist state by
> emulating them.
>
> >> I'm pretty handy with Bokken, Katana and Wakasachi.  Kendo is the
> >> "way of the sword".
>
> The reader should be aware that Olson routinely claims all kinds of
> knowledge and experience which he doesn't have -- from piloting 737
> airliners to levitating ladders to being a black belt in typography.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
> Robert L Bass
>
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