Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

["Roland Moore" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

>You're now talking about suspending the constitution.  >Bush is the last
President I would ever trust with that >kind of power.

Which was the first? Nixon?

"Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:M05aj.7657$Tx.4215@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Jim wrote:
>
> >
> > Sure, we just go though the immigration lists first and ship out
> > anyone from any part of the world or from any country that even HINTS
> > at supporting terroists.
>
> Hmmm...  You'd have to include Canada of course.
>
>
> > From that point forward anyone who even
> > SOUNDS like they THINK that they sympathize with the terroists, goes
> > next.
>
> Sound and "think"...  Last time I thought about anything, the only sound
> was my computer's fan...
>
>
> > Anyone who makes themselves outstanding by fostering belief that
> > what the terrorist are doing is right, is next.
>
> Do you make up this stuff as you go along?  I simply won't believe
> you're that stupid.
>
>
> > And from that point
> > forward, any one who is suspected of any kind of terrorist affiliation
> > should be incarcerated and totally investigated for validity and
> > background before being released.
>
> Let's arrest Bush, then.  His family had very close ties to the Bin
> Ladens a few years ago (and probably still do).
>
>
> > US citizen or not. It's call martial
> > law.
>
> You're now talking about suspending the constitution.  Bush is the last
> President I would ever trust with that kind of power.
>
>
> > Every fucking asshole who even THINKS that the terrorist are
> > doing the right thing has got to be looking over his shoulder and not
> > sleeping every night until he's caught or so fucking scared for his
> > life that he dies of a heart attack.
>
> I'm sure they are.
>
>
> > I don't give a crap about rights
> > or no rights or your fucking religious beliefs or not.
>
> Pity.  What you've just advocated is nothing less than a dictatorship.
> With "Bush" at the head...
>
>
> > If we've got an
> > enemy among us, weed it out.
>
> I have no issue with this.  It's the *how* that's the problem.
>
>
> > THEN you go to where ever they are or
> > where they are harbored and supported and you annihilate them and
> > anyone who happens to not get out of the way ......... when they know
> > whats coming ...... too fucking bad.
>
> The US has the means to do just this.  Let's nuke Iraq, Iran, and
> Afghanistan.
>
>
>
> >
> > There has NEVER EVER been a nation is the worlds history that has been
> > as confined and constrained as the US has been in recent times.
>
> "Confined and constrained" by law and by a constitution that places
> human rights above everything else.
>
>
> > WHO in
> > the HELL ever fought a war or even a battle that you had to not bomb a
> > certain building or not shoot into a certain area
>
> Why fight a war in the first place?
>
>
> > ..... when you know
> > goddamed well the enemy is in there shooting at YOU ..... for christ
> > fucking sake?
>
> Then leave (or don't "go there" in the first place).
>
>
> > How goddamed stupid is that?
>
> Is this a rhetorical question?
>
>
> > A NICE war?
>
> No such thing.
>
>
> > A humane
> > war?
>
> No such thing.
>
>
> > A caring war?
>
> No such thing.
>
>
> > A don't harm the enemy war?
>
> No such thing.
>
>
> > Because of WHAT .....
> > do you say?  Because your a christian ..... you say?
>
> Because I say there shouldn't *be" a war in the first place.  Using 911
> as your "excuse" to start such a conflict is plain stupid.
>
>
> > BULL Fucking
> > shit. If it wasn't for YOUR fucking religion and THEIR fucking
> > religion, in the FIRST place ..... NONE of this would be happening.
>
> You can't "blame" religion for this.  We have to stop meddling.  We have
> to stop trying to "impose democracy" on a people that simply don't
> understand what it means (and don't want to).
>
>
> > So
> > you can shove your fucking religious garbage right up your ass.
>
> What "religious" garbage are you referring to?
>
>
> > The
> > pacticality of the situation is, there are people who don't want us
> > around.
>
> Check.  I don't know about you, but when someone tells me they don't
> want to "see" me because the don't like me, I try to accommodate them as
> best I can.  I find this avoids a conflict which might escalate into
> "unpleasantness".
>
>
> > The only thing they have on their side is cowardly terrorist
> > acts that kill innocent people.
>
> And our soldiers (who don't happen to be "so innocent").
>
>
> > The one thing that will not stop us
> > from reducing these terrorist activilties is CERTAINLY not acting
> > humanely.
>
> "Leaving" would help.
>
>
> > If they don't give shit about their own people that they
> > kill, and their own people don't have the inteligence to see that if
> > they don't get rid of them, the terrorists will only continue to kill
> > more of the innocent people
>
> We're back to what I've been saying all along.  How do you "identify" a
> terrorist in order to deal with him?
>
>
> > ...... then f**k um. When enough of them
> > die they'll finally wake up and figure out that the only way to stop
> > the carnage from BOTH sides is to get rid of the reason for it. And
> > they will. As a matter of fact ..... right now that's EXACTLY what's
> > happening in Iraq ..... finally. But you're not going to hear it on
> > the network news.
>
> Why do you suppose that is?
>
>
>
> >> And hopefully, America will come to it's senses, pull out of Iraq and
> >> concentrate on helping those people that don't have your "drive" or
good
> >> fortune, strengthening her security, eliminating the criminal
> >> organizations (which use terror to control their victims), etc. ?We are
> >> one messed up continent considering the gifts He's provided us.
> >
> > Frank you're about as short sighted as any fucking libral I know.
> > Nobody or entity has provided us with anything that we haven't had the
> > guts to take for ourselves.
>
> Check.  That's the kind of thinking that "makes" terrorists.
>
>
> >
> > Sure lets just forget about Iran and Syira and any of the other
> > countries that would just LOVVVVVE to jump into the void we'd leave.
>
> But the "terrorists" would then be killing Iranians and Syrians.  I
> consider that to be infinitely better than *Americans*.
>
>
> > You think THIS is carnage and a war you want the US to get out
> > of ?????
>
> I don't just "think it".   I know it.
>
>
> > Wait till you see what happens when Iran, Syria and the UAR
> > get together and decide that there's not going to be anymore oil
> > coming our way.
>
> Whom do you think is going to buy their oil in the quantities that
> they're selling?  Do you honestly believe that someone else will step in
> to do so??  When you're "milking" the fatted cow and you happen to enjoy
>   cream in your tea, you're suddenly going to *stop*??  This is about
> *money*.  They love our money and what it can buy them.
>
>
> > And decide that Isreal shouldn't exist anymore.
>
> Israel can take care of itself.  It has the nuclear gloves.
>
>
> > We
> > absolutely HAVE to maintain a presence there and damn well better hold
> > on to it. If you think our presence in the Mid East is troublesome
> > now, wait till you see what our absence brings.
>
> "Peace"??  No more of our young men coming home in boxes (or pieces)?
>
>
> >
> >
> > Oh and by the way just a note for all the liberals and democrats
> > watching this, the Senate just approved the military spending bill.
>
> Pity they didn't approve a "National Health Program" bill...