Re: OT: Physicians for a National Health Program

["Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>]

> My point was about the person who does not have the information the
interrogator is looking for.  At what point do you decide that the
> person just doesn't know.

When his brains are on the floor it's probably safe to assume the he's given
out all the information he has.


"JoeRaisin" <joeraisin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:zpA9j.77$a52.20@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Jim wrote:
> > On Dec 16, 4:10?pm, JoeRaisin <joerai...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Edmund Fitzgerald wrote:
> >>> Let me say it again. ?Pure Horeshit. ?There are no organizations of
> >>> Christian crusaders running amuck all over the world beheading and
blowing
> >>> up whoever they please.
> >> Unless you count abortion clinics - but your point is made there as
well
> >> since mainstream Christian organizations condemn it.
> >>
> >>> First off I've not convinced pouring water down someone's nose is
torture.
> >>> Liberals, and perhaps yourself, tend to think anything that that makes
> >>> someone the least bit uncomfortable is torture. ?Islamic Jihadist, as
you
> >>> may have noticed, behead their captives, mutilate their bodies, and
hang
> >>> them up on public display. ?Liberals, for some reason, don't seem to
> >>> consider what the Jihadists do to be torture, or at least you never
hear one
> >>> say so.
> >> Give me a few hours of water boarding and I guarantee that I could have
> >> you confessing to being a serial pedophile cannibal and implicating any
> >> number of your family, friends or colleagues as members of your
enterprise.
> >>
> >> You would also swear that your confession was totally coerced and given
> >> freely.
> >>
> >> The point being that if you are going to torture someone for
> >> information, you better be sure they are in possession of said
> >> information or they will make stuff up to get you to stop.
> >
> >
> > Bet you that they only make stuff up the first time.
> >
> > Once being caught not telling the truth, they certainly know what's in
> > store the second time around and the fervor of the interrogators.
> >
> > Waterboarding has a distinct advantage over terminal torture in that
> > it can be repeated and there's no permanent physical damage.
> >
> > Which means, that the person who is being interrogated can anticipate
> > it being repeated if they don't tell the truth. Which says, that if
> > they've got any sense at all, they'll tell the truth the first time
> > around.
> >
> > Sounds pretty humane to me.
>
> My point was about the person who does not have the information the
> interrogator is looking for.  At what point do you decide that the
> person just doesn't know.
>