Re: Central Station Cancel Signal

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well fire systems are regulated, but alarm systems are not here in Ontario.
In most other provinces of Canada, there is regulation of one kind or
another. Next door in Quebec, alarms can only be installed by licensed
electricians, and that is of course bulls*it of the highest order, but the
unions and "patron politics" runs rampant in Quebec, so look out only for
their own interests.

Locksmithing in the other provinces I don't know about, but here in Ontario,
we've been lobbying for years for a simple background check....????   Seems
nothing happens in Canada until pressure from the newsmedia applied to
gutless politicians causes "knee jerk" legislative movement of one kind or
another....

RHC

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:CVc2f.40$_I.5027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> No license for locksmiths? holy camoli batman.
>
> What else is unregulated up thar?
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:tp92f.76$vD4.11840@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | No such requirement exists here. No permit is required other than a city
> tax
> | grab for registration of your alarm. Alarmco's do not require specific
> | permits to operate other than normal business licenses. Hell, even
> | locksmiths don't need a licence ! ...(?????)
> |
> | Most prefer to keep it that way, although there are downsides to it....
> |
> | RHC
> |
> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | news:qr42f.39$gK3.1518@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > Our local false alarm permits and related ordinances require alarm
> | > inspections/service yearly to renew their permits...yes even
> residential.
> | > Some clients strictly adhere to this, some go a little longer...or lie
> on
> | > the permit renewal (i have no control on that).
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:%q02f.11316$2F2.1381190@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | Who does one service call a year per account ? If they do, there's
> | > something
> | > | wrong. The rest I'll reply to you personally with....
> | > |
> | > | RHC
> | > |
> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | news:jd02f.68$v.9856@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | > That means you're monitoring is 12 bucks a month, since 3 bucks
> are
> | > | > allocated to worry free service and warranty.
> | > | >
> | > | > 15 CD = 12 USD
> | > | >
> | > | > Man...which shipping, taxes, and handling how to you stay
> afloat...do
> | > you
> | > | > pay yourself a salary? Not to mention overhead, and fuel costs for
> all
> | > | > those
> | > | > service calls you don't charge for...man, one service call a year
> per
> | > | > account is gonna cost you more than what you collect in gas alone
> not
> | > to
> | > | > mention paying your tech.
> | > | >
> | > | > Seems way too low for a brick an mortar business.
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | > news:jL6dnY__8InQINreRVn-hA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | > | Good question ! During selling of the alarm, it is pretty easy
> to
> | > | > determine
> | > | > | if the client intends to continue with the monitoring or not.
> But
> I
> | > have
> | > | > | been wrong three times. In each case, I sent the client a
> registered
> | > | > letter
> | > | > | telling him there is no warranty or any kind, or service on his
> | > panel
> | > | > (nor
> | > | > | will I service it at an additional price), and that he must tell
> his
> | > | > | insurance company of the cessation of monitoring. Plus, as part
> of
> | > my
> | > | > | contract, he agrees to remove my decals when monitoring
> | > stops....they
> | > | > belong
> | > | > | to me. And since they are exterior mounted decals, I actually
> make
> a
> | > | > visit
> | > | > | to remove them.  However, bottom line, he has paid me a fair and
> | > full
> | > | > market
> | > | > | price for the system, so I make my profit up front on the alarm
> | > itself.
> | > | > I
> | > | > | simply dial in and remove all monitoring information, and reset
> the
> | > unit
> | > | > to
> | > | > | factory installer code, and turn the TLM and the dialers off.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I've found that in selling high end systems to my particular
> | > clientele
> | > | > (who
> | > | > | generally are in the two income, higher echelon income bracket),
> | > this
> | > | > just
> | > | > | doesn't happen. I guess these folks are smart enough to realize
> | > their
> | > | > alarm
> | > | > | is crippled without proper response, and they probably feel $15
> a
> | > month
> | > | > is
> | > | > | peanuts to pay for a combined package with an ironclad warranty.
> | > | > | Interestingly enough, the three people who cancelled within 6
> | > months,
> | > | > were
> | > | > | all from Eastern European countries where they don't have
> monitoring
> | > | > | services (or so I'm told).
> | > | > |
> | > | > | I lose far more clients from people selling their homes and
> moving
> | > than
> | > | > I
> | > | > do
> | > | > | from people simply deciding they don't want monitoring. However,
> | > | > reasonable
> | > | > | prices and good service with the first client wins me back about
> 75%
> | > of
> | > | > the
> | > | > | new purchasers (which I'm told from other dealer friends is a
> higher
> | > | > | percentage than normal)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Works for me.....
> | > | > |
> | > | > | RHC
> | > | > |
> | > | > | "alarman" <alarman2000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | > | news:f2I1f.41555$lq6.6373@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > Since you don't do locals, and don't require time contracts,
> what
> | > | > would
> | > | > | > you
> | > | > | > do if someone purchased a system, then stopped monitoring
> service
> | > | > after
> | > | > a
> | > | > | > couple of months?
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