Re: UL trying to get rid of combo panels

["Russell Brill" <russwbrill@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Crash" <robosama@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > On Jul 11, 2:02 pm, "Russell Brill" <russwbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> >> >>> > >> >> Napco does have a new panel coming out that claims to meet
> >> >>> > >> >> all
> >> >>> > >> >> the
> >> >>> > >> >> latest
> >> >>> > >> >> standards. Its finaling at UL, and they have listed it on
> >> >>> > >> >> their
> >> >>> > >> >> website.
> >> >>> > >> >> I
> >> >>> > >> >> am on the beta list.
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> >> >>> > >> > It looks awesome just hope it is cant wait to get my hands
> >> >>> > >> > on
> >> >>> > >> > one
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> >> >>> > >> Well, I have to say if they have isolated power circuits for
> >> >>> > >> burg/fire/access and true two line monitoring it should be
> >> >>> > >> set.
> >> >>> > >> Now
> >> >>> > >> if
> >> >>> > >> they
> >> >>> > >> could come up with a dual band primary rated cell using GSM
> >> >>> > >> *AND*
> >> >>> > >> CDMA so
> >> >>> > >> it
> >> >>> > >> could knock on AES's back door and eliminate the need for
> >> >>> > >> phone
> >> >>> > >> lines I
> >> >>> > >> would be ecstatic.
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> >> >>> > >> I always thought Caddx would have gone that way if they hadn't
> >> >>> > >> sold
> >> >>> > >> out.
> >> >>> > >> I
> >> >>> > >> guess their P&L never caught up with their R&D costs.
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> >> >>> > > DMP now has a stand alone cell unit UL Fire Comm Knock Knock
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> >> >>> > Does it meet TWO (2) line requirements?
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> >> >>> > If not why bother? Uplink and Telular both have single line fire
> >> >>> > primary
> >> >>> > rated communicators already, and I don't have to promise a first
> >> >>> > born
> >> >>> > son to
> >> >>> > buy from them.
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> >> >>> I think Honeywell has one as well
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> >> >> DMP piece is stand alone with out having to use the extra phone line
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> >> > It meets the requirement for two separate communications paths? Do
> >> > you
> >> > know how it meets that requirement? Does it use and check in on both
> >> > GSM
> >> > and CDMA every 24hrs? If not how does it meet the requirement? Of
> >> > course
> >> > even if it does DMP wouldn't sell to me anyway, but I am curious. It
> >> > can't be a
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> >> I wouldn't take the "Not Selling to you" thing personally, they pull
> >> that
> >> S**T in my area too... FYI: They seem to be taking the low road like a
> >> lot
> >> of the other manufacturers have by jumping into the Lick & Stick
> >> market.
> >> Have you seen their new product yet? Take a looks
> >> seehttp://dmp.com/XTL...
> >> All of the Door-to-Door companies will probably be selling it next
> >> summer.
> >> So far Bosch hasn't lowered themselves to that level yet, hopefully
> >> they
> >> never will... Come to think of it, Napco doesn't make a all in one lick
> >> &
> >> stick system either... It sounds like they (Napco) have been spending
> >> the
> >> last couple of years designing some new product lines that only Trained
> >> PROFESSIONALS can install, hmmm image that :-)
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> > Hmmm, I guess that means just you, me and Bob L. ;-)
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> Ummm.... I'm pretty much self taught. Does that mean I have to turn in my
> Napco discount card?

Russ,
why are you saying the XTL is lick & stick? It's not anything like a
Lynx if that's what you're getting at.

Hi Crash,

True, it's not like the Lynx, but I believe you'll have to admit it doesn't
look like it requires lots of brains to install... Plug the keypad & control
into the nearest outlets, tape (you know tape will be the Norm) sensors to
walls, program & send signals, then hand the user guide to the customer...
According to DMP's video, that can all be done in 35 minutes or
less............. Ahhhhhhhh, the quality, it looks like I've been doing
things wrong all these years :-))

Regards,
Russ