Re: UL trying to get rid of combo panels

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 12, 8:02=A0pm, "Russell Brill" <russwbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 11, 2:02 pm, "Russell Brill" <russwbr...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > >> >>> On Jul 6, 10:05 am, "Bob La Londe" <nos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > >> >>> > > On Jul 5, 1:20 am, "Bob La Londe" <nos...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >> >>> > >> "nick markowitz" <nmarkow...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > >> >>> > >> >> Napco does have a new panel coming out that claims to me=
et
> > >> >>> > >> >> all
> > >> >>> > >> >> the
> > >> >>> > >> >> latest
> > >> >>> > >> >> standards. Its finaling at UL, and they have listed it o=
n
> > >> >>> > >> >> their
> > >> >>> > >> >> website.
> > >> >>> > >> >> I
> > >> >>> > >> >> am on the beta list.
>
> > >> >>> > >> > It looks awesome just hope it is cant wait to get my hand=
s
> > >> >>> > >> > on
> > >> >>> > >> > one
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> > >> >>> > >> Well, I have to say if they have isolated power circuits fo=
r
> > >> >>> > >> burg/fire/access and true two line monitoring it should be
> > >> >>> > >> set.
> > >> >>> > >> Now
> > >> >>> > >> if
> > >> >>> > >> they
> > >> >>> > >> could come up with a dual band primary rated cell using GSM
> > >> >>> > >> *AND*
> > >> >>> > >> CDMA so
> > >> >>> > >> it
> > >> >>> > >> could knock on AES's back door and eliminate the need for
> > >> >>> > >> phone
> > >> >>> > >> lines I
> > >> >>> > >> would be ecstatic.
>
> > >> >>> > >> I always thought Caddx would have gone that way if they had=
n't
> > >> >>> > >> sold
> > >> >>> > >> out.
> > >> >>> > >> I
> > >> >>> > >> guess their P&L never caught up with their R&D costs.
>
> > >> >>> > > DMP now has a stand alone cell unit UL Fire Comm Knock Knock
>
> > >> >>> > Does it meet TWO (2) line requirements?
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> > >> >>> > If not why bother? Uplink and Telular both have single line fi=
re
> > >> >>> > primary
> > >> >>> > rated communicators already, and I don't have to promise a fir=
st
> > >> >>> > born
> > >> >>> > son to
> > >> >>> > buy from them.
>
> > >> >>> I think Honeywell has one as well
>
> > >> >> DMP piece is stand alone with out having to use the extra phone l=
ine
>
> > >> > It meets the requirement for two separate communications paths? Do
> > >> > you
> > >> > know how it meets that requirement? Does it use and check in on bo=
th
> > >> > GSM
> > >> > and CDMA every 24hrs? If not how does it meet the requirement? Of
> > >> > course
> > >> > even if it does DMP wouldn't sell to me anyway, but I am curious. =
It
> > >> > can't be a
>
> > >> I wouldn't take the "Not Selling to you" thing personally, they pull
> > >> that
> > >> S**T in my area too... FYI: They seem to be taking the low road like=
 a
> > >> lot
> > >> of the other manufacturers have by jumping into the Lick & Stick
> > >> market.
> > >> Have you seen their new product yet? Take a looks
> > >> seehttp://dmp.com/XTL...
> > >> All of the Door-to-Door companies will probably be selling it next
> > >> summer.
> > >> So far Bosch hasn't lowered themselves to that level yet, hopefully
> > >> they
> > >> never will... Come to think of it, Napco doesn't make a all in one l=
ick
> > >> &
> > >> stick system either... It sounds like they (Napco) have been spendin=
g
> > >> the
> > >> last couple of years designing some new product lines that only Trai=
ned
> > >> PROFESSIONALS can install, hmmm image that :-)
>
> > > Hmmm, I guess that means just you, me and Bob L. ;-)
>
> > Ummm.... I'm pretty much self taught. Does that mean I have to turn in =
my
> > Napco discount card?
>
> Russ,
> why are you saying the XTL is lick & stick? It's not anything like a
> Lynx if that's what you're getting at.
>
> Hi Crash,
>
> True, it's not like the Lynx, but I believe you'll have to admit it doesn=
't
> look like it requires lots of brains to install... Plug the keypad & cont=
rol
> into the nearest outlets, tape (you know tape will be the Norm) sensors t=
o
> walls, program & send signals, then hand the user guide to the customer..=
.
> According to DMP's video, that can all be done in 35 minutes or
> less............. Ahhhhhhhh, the quality, it looks like I've been doing
> things wrong all these years :-))
>
> Regards,
> Russ

I never was a big fan of DMP panels, the mid to low-end panels don't
do as much as other manufacturers, they are a pain to get and require
a quasi-receiver to download.