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Re: Napco system questions



"Frank Olson" <use_the_email_links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Robert L Bass wrote:
>
>>
>> Not many can auto-arm on schedule *if* there has been no activity (motion)
>> for xx hours.
>
> I don't think the Napco panels you used "back then" provided "if" and "then"
> programming either.  I think you're referring to a Magic Module.

No "Magic Module" was used.  That was an obsolete ELK product which probably
could have done the job.  I used a lot of MA-3000 systems until the Napco
Gemini series came along.  Both generations support the programmable relay
board but the P3200, P9600 and X255 are my favorites.

> Once the power to glass breaks and motions is interrupted and the contacts
> bypassed, any system that employs them will "degrade" to the contacts you've
> provided.

One of the nice things Napco does (and DSC doesn't) is provide a means to arm
over open (devices powered down) zones and then activate same when they become
"ready" later.  It's a features that has to be used very carefully, on a
per-zone basis but it can be really handy for this type of app.

>> It can't be done at all with DSC's modules.  They don't offer that level of
>> flexibility.
>
> Ahhhh...  but you can wire relays to bypass lots of stuff.

Relays, yes.  Try the "xxth Tuesday of the month" trick with DSC.

>> DSC has no way to know that a given Wednesday is the last in a given month.
>> In fact, they don't have an option for the xx Friday either.
>
> No...  But then Elk's Magic Module has often provided the means to do so.

I *assume* the MM could do that.  However, it's out of production and I never
used one so that remains an assumption.  In any case, it's definitely not "out
of the box" for either brand.

> I'm not "up" on Napco that much, but I figure that the panels you used back
> then couldn't have done this "out of the box" either.

They could and did.

>> $100 to Moffitt Cancer Research Center.  Actually, how about we both do
>> that and call the whole thing a draw?
>
> OK by me.  I would still like to see if I can make this all work with DSC's
> product as a base, though.  I've never backed down from a challenge!

Kewl.  You figure out which modules you need and how to program the system to
do it and I'm in for the C-note.

--

Regards,
Robert L Bass

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