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Re: 2 or 4 wire smoke detector question.
What put the bug up Bush's ass to flatten Saddam will be debated by future
historians for some time I suspect. To over simplify it all and say Bush
lied about Saddam's capability and intentions is hardly an answer,
especially if you don't mention all the other leading Democrats as well as
Republicans that said the very same thing. Most of the G8 nation's
intelligence departments said the same thing as well. I don't think Bush
held sway over any of them. The CIA's leaks about undue political pressure
in reaching that Saddam is a menace conclusion was shown to be a CYA effort
so they wouldn't have to fall on their sword for such a screw up. Bottom
line is the CIA missed the threats that hit us, and so far seemed to have
guessed wrong about Iraq. Historically the U.S. has never been a country
that enjoyed long protracted wars, so it's no surprise that the Iraq
situation is so unpopular. The rest of the world never likes to see the U.S.
go out to kick ass and take names, unless their the one nation being
protected. So the experiment goes on to see whether or not the Iraqi's can
take back control of the country from the legacy of a brutal dictator.
"Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:EM3qi.2209$dp3.92865@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> thanks for the answer..but clearly its not what most people in the US and
> the rest of the world were thinking when W spoke about the BIG amount
Saddam
> had...what he could do with it and why the world had to fight this evil
> man...
>
> what it the most disturbing,is the lie,plain lie,or maybe we should say
lack
> of full information,they maybe knew they would find a small amount of
shell
> or stuff like that in the country,after all like you said,there is stuff
> lying around in Europe after 50 + after the war...and it would not
surprise
> me that even the US military don't know the full amount of all the ammo
they
> have,in Iraq or even in the US..
>
> why I pointed to W when this post thread started its because we are just
> beginning to see how W used the US citizen,how he used 911 to go to war
with
> a country that was not a real treat but was more a strategic place to
> hold...that would not have made the point and most US citizen would not
have
> loved it..it would not have pass congress or the senate..
>
> But one other thing...what about the kool aid stuff...here we don't drink
> that,we drink beer,the real stuff,not like your stuff,but I can see a
> possible comparison between our beers and cool aid..here we drink beer and
> south of our border they serve kool aid in bar....;-)
>
>
>
>
>
> "Just Looking" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> 46a7a1ca$0$4695$4c368faf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > You asked the question. I provided an answer. Consider the potency of
> > agents
> > like sarin versus the actual amount of the substance you have to have on
> > hand to create an effective weapon. Taking into account the long build
up
> > to
> > the beginning of military action, Saddam would have to have been an
> > exceptionally ignorant person to get caught with any WMD smoking gun.
What
> > he did get caught with is the stuff he actually forgot about keeping
track
> > of himself. That to me a is a bit more worrying (and the fact the U.S.
> > kept
> > it secret so long after finding it). To be able to have so much of not
> > only
> > conventional weapons, but banned weapons as well, to say "Oh yes, I
forgot
> > about those 500 shells". In short, there is no real way to say what
Saddam
> > had or didn't have in the way of WMD. Like they say, absence of evidence
> > is
> > not evidence of absence. Nothing we read now is likely to tell much of
the
> > truth about anything. I think in 20 or 30 years we will all be surprised
> > about what really went on when it is presented on the History Channel.
One
> > thing is for certain, there is no sarin in Kool Aid. You'd be long gone
if
> > there were.
> >
> > After any conflict there is clean up on the battlefield. The Europeans
are
> > still cleaning up stuff from WWI and WWII. I am sure the Iraqis will be
> > doing the same with depleted Uranium and other munitions.
> >
> > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:YkLpi.43551$i07.297831@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> >> Yes they found over 500.
> >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
> >> >>> Just one question,after 911 did he had WMD?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> please show them to the world if you know where they are..till
> > then....
> >> >
> >>
> >> wow 500 degraded sarin and mustard gas munition...
> >>
> >> DEGRADED...been more ten years they were build,and the degrade fast...
> >>
> >> not even good enough to use a trap...
> >>
> >> compared to the thousand of depleted uranium shell you trew at them its
> > like
> >> they could have hurt you with a stone....
> >>
> >> I'am impress !!!
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
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