Re: Let's say I break into your house 9, was: Good news for US -- Secure Fence Act of 2006

["Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Everywhere Man" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>Pete shut up about the Jews already. Your chatter makes you appear
>silly & uneducated.

Lets see who will look uneducated...

>You're a Canadian separatist with strong anti-American feelings which I
>can't fathom a reason any canuck would hate us being we've only
>protected you from Communism for some 50 odd years.

Not antiamerican feeling here,but a lot of antibush feeling and its politics
of war....

>We also made it so
>the French wouldn't need to learn new ways to cook bratwurst and say
>Heil when their leader was mentioned. We didn't do it to rub your face
>in it. We did it because as a great nation we take responsibility for
>the safety of weaker nations. We did it so you could freely sit there
>and type your opinions rather than type what the government orders you
>to type.

its so damn cool what you did for all of us!but remembre something about the
french,they were your first ally aginst the brits and they were the first to
recognized USA as a country and that helped a lot in your fight for
independance,they are not rubbing this enough in your face...
and the fact that you entred in WWII as nothing to do about helping the
french,its all about the fact that you saw a damn good time for taking more
control over some territory,and in the same time,consolidate your selling of
arms to the fighting country,in fact till you saw that there would be a good
possibility of loosing client in tha "free" world,you were just making cash
with that war...



>Hating America and Jews is serving what purpose? You proudly
>brag about how Canada is selling oil to Red China yet the United States
>has used millions of gallons of oil protecting Canadian skies. You find
>joy when you think your country is doing something to hurt America?

Not hating jew(outside of israel) nor american,just pointing to some here
that there so good govt is hurting them and many other and that they are not
the ONLY country to with we can deal,just to make you see that you are not
the center of the world,and that everyone is not revolving around you...

>What did we do other than treat you as an ally and keep you safe from
>Soviet attack?

attack from the soviet were always based on the fact that YOU were in a cold
war against them,and the fall out would have hurt us,protecting us was just
simply the thing to do,cause it was in fact protection yourself...blowing
missile in orbit on top of my head is hardly something i would be looking
for...or even call it protection..we were the buffer between 2 country at
war..it was a GREAT freeling..

>You're hollering about some Canadians that died because
>of Israeli bombs. How about when Canadian frigates were delivering
>grain to North Korea just prior to the Korean conflict? Canadian grain
>fed our enemies. Should we hate all Canadians now? Are the citizens of
>Montreal more valuable than citizens elsewhere?

not more valuable,just AS valuable then any israel or lebanon or american
citizen..
About that grain,USA never delivered anything to any country prior of a
conflict?
wasnt there was so really nice tie with the Bush family and the Nazy
govt,about some funding prior to WWII
feeding a country is nothing,the poeple there have a fucking right to live
and eat,as you,its not because there leader are jerks(as some others) that
we should let all die....as we should not let Gaza people die,nor the jew in
israel,but all the exstremist in both camp should be left in the desert with
just enough water for a day...

>Folks in Montreal have
>an awful lot of opinions on how the world should be but that damn
>smugness which is associated with your French ancestry makes the rest
>of the world view you as old world crackpots with delusional thinking.

Now i supposed thats how you view us,too bad you never came here and really
saw what we are...
but that would be like asking you to had yourself a brain and start thinking
by yourself,not just take what CNN give you and think its all th true

just one little thing ..have you consider getting some treatment for your
french hatring dissorder?
hating a whole country and everything even remotely connected to it cause
they said no to go to war on bad intelligencia(wish is now prooven) is ,i
think,prooving a little problem with you....


>So please save your anti-semitic remarks for the local cafe where other
>faux Frenchies like Pepe, Yann and Pierre appreciate them.

I dont go in cafe and talk about USA politics,poeple are tired of all this
here,they just hope that bush have an heart attack as soon as possible..



Petem wrote:
> Pretty good post,it does a fairly good resuming of the situation...
>
> what I like about what you posted is that you do point out that the Jew
> were
> good terrorist(I already knew it,but if I would have said it,I would be
> declared anti-Semite),in fact there whole govt still act like terrorist in
> many ways,and after that they have the nerve to say they kill innocent
> people to get at terrorist....
>
> let me predict something,there wont be a settlement of the matter till
> both
> side are either totally inaliated
>
> If I would tell you,like the Jew did,that part of your country(lets say,NY
> state) as been given to me and my religion as my holy land,I am sure that
> even if I tell you its like that,you would not let that go,when I would
> invade(by asking all the people of my religion to come in NY) the place...
>
> the Arab did the same thing and now every one are on there back
>
> there is no solution for that conflict ,and the main reason for
> it....religion.....both religion wont leave an inch to the other...
>
>
>
>
> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> QKz6h.30365$rG.7022@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >but wasnt it because they(the jews) first took over a big part of there
> > >territory?
> >
> > I don't think the Jews took a big part of anyone's territory, except
> > Moses
> > maybe. And he didn't do that directly, his next in line did. You know
> > Moses got fouled up on that 'talk to the rock' versus the 'smack the
> > rock'
> > thing. The Jews weren't the first in Palestine if you take the Biblical
> > account literally. But by that account the Jews claim God gave the land
> > to
> > them, but only after a good horror show massacre of the locals. I have
> > not
> > seen that 'signed by God' land deed yet so I can't really tell what God
> > gave the Jews, or can anyone else. You know things did not go well for
> > the
> > Jews once they settled in that part of the world. The Babylonians et al
> > took them captive just like the Egyptians did, and the twelve tribes
> > went
> > to one. What ever happened bad up until then was nothing because the
> > Jews
> > really lost out when the Romans did a number on the old home town of
> > Jerusalem, and the Temple became a Holy Roman pork fest! After the
> > Temple
> > became a chariot parking lot, by courtesy of the Romans combat
> > engineers,
> > an almost magical transformation of the Jewish religion occured where
> > Temple worship went sort of on the run (okay, okay "the diaspora"). And
> > that is still pretty much the religion of the Jews today (until maybe
> > someone builds a Temple again ).
> > If you talk about recent history and the formation of the "modern Jewish
> > State" the Jews didn't really "take over" anything there either. After
> > the
> > fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WWI the British gained control
> > of
> > the area known as Palestine. The British hated the Jews about as much as
> > anyone at the time and it made the Balfour Declaration to support the
> > notion of a Jewish homeland. (It might be more likely that the Brits
> > just
> > didn't want any more Jews in Britain.) Unfortunately for the Brits, the
> > Jews turned out to be not only great rebels, they turned out to be
> > pretty
> > good terrorists too. It was real sport to see the bodies of Brits
> > blasted
> > out of the St. David's. By 1947 the Brits had had enough (after making
> > promises to the local Arabs who helped Britain in WW I&II to control
> > what
> > was the massive influx of Jews to the region, the Brits broke that
> > promise.)  The Brits said "screw this, we're outa here" and "turned
> > over"
> > the problem to the UN. Well for once Jewish hatred helped the Jews get
> > what they wanted, a homeland. The UN split the land up into two, one Jew
> > and one Arab. The Arabs got the short end of the deal from then on. Many
> > Arabs fled the from the Jews as the Jews entered the new Jewish area
> > still
> > occpied by the Arabs, and many Arabs never came back or were allowed
> > back.
> > Today the Jews can't let the Arabs come back because the Jews would
> > become
> > a minority in their own country if they did. The Arabs that decided to
> > get
> > their land back by force only got their asses kicked and lost more land.
> > This of course has been an unsolved problem since 1947. To say the Jews
> > "took over" or "took" anything from the Arabs is not accurate and is
> > just
> > an attempt to over simplify an otherwise complicated problem. When I see
> > what many call the Holy Land I only see waste land. I am afraid if any
> > Jews and Arabs ended up together in West Texas they'd think it was new
> > Jerusalem and start fighting there too. Why these two groups of
> > essentially the same people ethnically would waste time fighting over
> > "the
> > Holy Land" is beyond me. Figuring out how to get them to stop fighting
> > and
> > live together in peace is beyond me as well (and up until now everyone
> > else too I suppose).
> >
> > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:6Ht6h.112281$Jq5.790801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >> wOk6h.29983$rG.14839@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Why is anyone the victim of hatred or misinformation? Jews can be no
> >>> better or worse collectively (or individually) than any other group.
> >>> The way they act is a part of their religion, customs, and ethics that
> >>> make up who they are as a people and well as an individual. The hatred
> >>> that spawns from that is not a problem that the Jews have any
> >>> responsibility for. Although there are different denominations of the
> >>> Jewish faith most people seem to lump them together. Since they are
> >>> seen
> >>> as one it makes any anti-Jewish laws or activities more effective. The
> >>> Jewish history contains too many sad episodes of being victims of
> >>> exploitation, expulsion and massacre.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That, i totally agree with you,but now that this point is agreed,why do
> >> they now act the same against the poeple of Gaza,and libanon?
> >>
> >> yes they did have received a lot of blow from them(palestininan) ,but
> >> wasnt it because they(the jews) first took over a big part of there
> >> territory?
> >> yes ,the territory before was a jewish place,yes, there are temple that
> >> were built there before the one that were occupying the territory was
> >> even a tribe,but still,the jew took by force what was not there's
> >> anymore.......
> >>
> >> you know,thats what first created the turmoil in that region,well ,that
> >> would not be fair,there was allready turmoil,but declaring israel a
> >> jewish country they've putted fire at the black powder...
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:wEh6h.74709$Jq5.595059@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> just one question should be ask here...
> >>>>
> >>>> why is it like that? why have they been oppressed by so many power?
> >>>>
> >>>> the way they act could be a cause...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >>>> kWc6h.27347$rG.11382@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>I can't say that the Isreali government has acted in the interests of
> >>>>>the USA at all times. When Israel deliberately attacked the USS
> >>>>>Liberty
> >>>>>or when Jonathan Jay Pollard was convicted of spying for Isreal that
> >>>>>certainly hurt the USA. That said, most people think of US and
> >>>>>Isreali
> >>>>>interests as being closely aligned. I don't think that the US as a
> >>>>>country or its people would allow harm to come to Isreal, and I feel
> >>>>>that's way it should be. Since the time of Moses the Jews have been
> >>>>>oppressed by one power or another. The irony is that even having
> >>>>>their
> >>>>>own state has not put them in any less peril. I certainly don't have
> >>>>>the wisdom to suggest a solution, my hope for them is what they hope
> >>>>>for themselves when they greet one another with the word "Shalom".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:Nta6h.46178$Jq5.496530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "G. Morgan" <alarmpro@xxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
> >>>>>> 313il218gnp1go81nm4nhrheqkql103b27@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:56:28 -0500, "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Your way of life is VERY different then what we do here,we have a
> >>>>>>>>lot more
> >>>>>>>>tolerance,and respect for other poeple till of course they act
> >>>>>>>>like
> >>>>>>>>jerks,then we turn as bad as you,very easily....;-) just ask our
> >>>>>>>>friend on
> >>>>>>>>the west bank of the Outaouais river ;-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just had 2 paragraphs written in response to you, but I'm not
> >>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>> to post it.  I'll just summarize by saying your posts of late have
> >>>>>>> nothing to do with 'tolerance' nor 'respect',  especially
> >>>>>>> concerning
> >>>>>>> your anti-Semite remarks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> tolerance and respect are not a right you have to act decently to
> >>>>>> keep it,and after the way the Israel govt acted they lost it,but of
> >>>>>> course that is not of your concern,the Jew can do what ever they
> >>>>>> want..no?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >