Re: Let's say I break into your house 9, was: Good news for US -- Secure Fence Act of 2006

["Everywhere Man" <alarminstall@xxxxxxx>]

Pete shut up about the Jews already. Your chatter makes you appear
silly & uneducated.
You're a Canadian separatist with strong anti-American feelings which I
can't fathom a reason any canuck would hate us being we've only
protected you from Communism for some 50 odd years. We also made it so
the French wouldn't need to learn new ways to cook bratwurst and say
Heil when their leader was mentioned. We didn't do it to rub your face
in it. We did it because as a great nation we take responsibility for
the safety of weaker nations. We did it so you could freely sit there
and type your opinions rather than type what the government orders you
to type. Hating America and Jews is serving what purpose? You proudly
brag about how Canada is selling oil to Red China yet the United States
has used millions of gallons of oil protecting Canadian skies. You find
joy when you think your country is doing something to hurt America?
What did we do other than treat you as an ally and keep you safe from
Soviet attack? You're hollering about some Canadians that died because
of Israeli bombs. How about when Canadian frigates were delivering
grain to North Korea just prior to the Korean conflict? Canadian grain
fed our enemies. Should we hate all Canadians now? Are the citizens of
Montreal more valuable than citizens elsewhere?  Folks in Montreal have
an awful lot of opinions on how the world should be but that damn
smugness which is associated with your French ancestry makes the rest
of the world view you as old world crackpots with delusional thinking.
So please save your anti-semitic remarks for the local cafe where other
faux Frenchies like Pepe, Yann and Pierre appreciate them.


Petem wrote:
> Pretty good post,it does a fairly good resuming of the situation...
>
> what I like about what you posted is that you do point out that the Jew w=
ere
> good terrorist(I already knew it,but if I would have said it,I would be
> declared anti-Semite),in fact there whole govt still act like terrorist in
> many ways,and after that they have the nerve to say they kill innocent
> people to get at terrorist....
>
> let me predict something,there wont be a settlement of the matter till bo=
th
> side are either totally inaliated
>
> If I would tell you,like the Jew did,that part of your country(lets say,NY
> state) as been given to me and my religion as my holy land,I am sure that
> even if I tell you its like that,you would not let that go,when I would
> invade(by asking all the people of my religion to come in NY) the place...
>
> the Arab did the same thing and now every one are on there back
>
> there is no solution for that conflict ,and the main reason for
> it....religion.....both religion wont leave an inch to the other...
>
>
>
>
> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
> QKz6h.30365$rG.7022@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >but wasnt it because they(the jews) first took over a big part of there
> > >territory?
> >
> > I don't think the Jews took a big part of anyone's territory, except Mo=
ses
> > maybe. And he didn't do that directly, his next in line did. You know
> > Moses got fouled up on that 'talk to the rock' versus the 'smack the ro=
ck'
> > thing. The Jews weren't the first in Palestine if you take the Biblical
> > account literally. But by that account the Jews claim God gave the land=
 to
> > them, but only after a good horror show massacre of the locals. I have =
not
> > seen that 'signed by God' land deed yet so I can't really tell what God
> > gave the Jews, or can anyone else. You know things did not go well for =
the
> > Jews once they settled in that part of the world. The Babylonians et al
> > took them captive just like the Egyptians did, and the twelve tribes we=
nt
> > to one. What ever happened bad up until then was nothing because the Je=
ws
> > really lost out when the Romans did a number on the old home town of
> > Jerusalem, and the Temple became a Holy Roman pork fest! After the Temp=
le
> > became a chariot parking lot, by courtesy of the Romans combat engineer=
s,
> > an almost magical transformation of the Jewish religion occured where
> > Temple worship went sort of on the run (okay, okay "the diaspora"). And
> > that is still pretty much the religion of the Jews today (until maybe
> > someone builds a Temple again ).
> > If you talk about recent history and the formation of the "modern Jewish
> > State" the Jews didn't really "take over" anything there either. After =
the
> > fall of the Ottoman Empire at the end of WWI the British gained control=
 of
> > the area known as Palestine. The British hated the Jews about as much as
> > anyone at the time and it made the Balfour Declaration to support the
> > notion of a Jewish homeland. (It might be more likely that the Brits ju=
st
> > didn't want any more Jews in Britain.) Unfortunately for the Brits, the
> > Jews turned out to be not only great rebels, they turned out to be pret=
ty
> > good terrorists too. It was real sport to see the bodies of Brits blast=
ed
> > out of the St. David's. By 1947 the Brits had had enough (after making
> > promises to the local Arabs who helped Britain in WW I&II to control wh=
at
> > was the massive influx of Jews to the region, the Brits broke that
> > promise.)  The Brits said "screw this, we're outa here" and "turned ove=
r"
> > the problem to the UN. Well for once Jewish hatred helped the Jews get
> > what they wanted, a homeland. The UN split the land up into two, one Jew
> > and one Arab. The Arabs got the short end of the deal from then on. Many
> > Arabs fled the from the Jews as the Jews entered the new Jewish area st=
ill
> > occpied by the Arabs, and many Arabs never came back or were allowed ba=
ck.
> > Today the Jews can't let the Arabs come back because the Jews would bec=
ome
> > a minority in their own country if they did. The Arabs that decided to =
get
> > their land back by force only got their asses kicked and lost more land.
> > This of course has been an unsolved problem since 1947. To say the Jews
> > "took over" or "took" anything from the Arabs is not accurate and is ju=
st
> > an attempt to over simplify an otherwise complicated problem. When I see
> > what many call the Holy Land I only see waste land. I am afraid if any
> > Jews and Arabs ended up together in West Texas they'd think it was new
> > Jerusalem and start fighting there too. Why these two groups of
> > essentially the same people ethnically would waste time fighting over "=
the
> > Holy Land" is beyond me. Figuring out how to get them to stop fighting =
and
> > live together in peace is beyond me as well (and up until now everyone
> > else too I suppose).
> >
> > "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:6Ht6h.112281$Jq5.790801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a =E9crit dans le message de news:
> >> wOk6h.29983$rG.14839@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Why is anyone the victim of hatred or misinformation? Jews can be no
> >>> better or worse collectively (or individually) than any other group.
> >>> The way they act is a part of their religion, customs, and ethics that
> >>> make up who they are as a people and well as an individual. The hatred
> >>> that spawns from that is not a problem that the Jews have any
> >>> responsibility for. Although there are different denominations of the
> >>> Jewish faith most people seem to lump them together. Since they are s=
een
> >>> as one it makes any anti-Jewish laws or activities more effective. The
> >>> Jewish history contains too many sad episodes of being victims of
> >>> exploitation, expulsion and massacre.
> >>>
> >>
> >> That, i totally agree with you,but now that this point is agreed,why do
> >> they now act the same against the poeple of Gaza,and libanon?
> >>
> >> yes they did have received a lot of blow from them(palestininan) ,but
> >> wasnt it because they(the jews) first took over a big part of there
> >> territory?
> >> yes ,the territory before was a jewish place,yes, there are temple that
> >> were built there before the one that were occupying the territory was
> >> even a tribe,but still,the jew took by force what was not there's
> >> anymore.......
> >>
> >> you know,thats what first created the turmoil in that region,well ,that
> >> would not be fair,there was allready turmoil,but declaring israel a
> >> jewish country they've putted fire at the black powder...
> >>
> >>
> >>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>> news:wEh6h.74709$Jq5.595059@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> just one question should be ask here...
> >>>>
> >>>> why is it like that? why have they been oppressed by so many power?
> >>>>
> >>>> the way they act could be a cause...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a =E9crit dans le message de ne=
ws:
> >>>> kWc6h.27347$rG.11382@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>I can't say that the Isreali government has acted in the interests of
> >>>>>the USA at all times. When Israel deliberately attacked the USS Libe=
rty
> >>>>>or when Jonathan Jay Pollard was convicted of spying for Isreal that
> >>>>>certainly hurt the USA. That said, most people think of US and Isrea=
li
> >>>>>interests as being closely aligned. I don't think that the US as a
> >>>>>country or its people would allow harm to come to Isreal, and I feel
> >>>>>that's way it should be. Since the time of Moses the Jews have been
> >>>>>oppressed by one power or another. The irony is that even having the=
ir
> >>>>>own state has not put them in any less peril. I certainly don't have
> >>>>>the wisdom to suggest a solution, my hope for them is what they hope
> >>>>>for themselves when they greet one another with the word "Shalom".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:Nta6h.46178$Jq5.496530@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "G. Morgan" <alarmpro@xxxxxxxxxxx> a =E9crit dans le message de ne=
ws:
> >>>>>> 313il218gnp1go81nm4nhrheqkql103b27@xxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:56:28 -0500, "Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Your way of life is VERY different then what we do here,we have a
> >>>>>>>>lot more
> >>>>>>>>tolerance,and respect for other poeple till of course they act li=
ke
> >>>>>>>>jerks,then we turn as bad as you,very easily....;-) just ask our
> >>>>>>>>friend on
> >>>>>>>>the west bank of the Outaouais river ;-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I just had 2 paragraphs written in response to you, but I'm not
> >>>>>>> going
> >>>>>>> to post it.  I'll just summarize by saying your posts of late have
> >>>>>>> nothing to do with 'tolerance' nor 'respect',  especially concern=
ing
> >>>>>>> your anti-Semite remarks.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> tolerance and respect are not a right you have to act decently to
> >>>>>> keep it,and after the way the Israel govt acted they lost it,but of
> >>>>>> course that is not of your concern,the Jew can do what ever they
> >>>>>> want..no?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >