Re: More VOIP/Digital Voice

["Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I am glad that some here have the luxury of judging products by their
> technical merits and not by the effects that the parent company has on the
> rest of the alarm industry.

Yes I often ponder the potential evils, political leanings, charity
contributions, sexual preferences of the manufacturer, doesn't everyone?

> As a practical matter aren't you guys talking about a panel line that I
> believe technically doesn't exist anymore? I thought that it is called
> NetworX since GE put the cash on the table.

True however I will always refer to the GE brands as ITI and Caddx for the
following reasons

1. It's easier to sort my pdf documents than to put them into one big GE
folder
2. It easier to provide tech support when they still branded them by the old
names
3. I like the names Caddx and ITI, I grew up in the industry with them
4.

BTW: I do the same with Honeywell/Apex/Ademco/FBI for the same reason

> You know, the same ones that are
> doing more to change the industry to the way they want it to be; more than
> any other big company to date that has bought itself into the business.

So whats wrong with that? Every company shapes it's industry unless you
think they are evil......if thats the case they will be knocking on your
door soon troublemaker

> Now
> if someone needs to post a login in to that site remember their warning.
You
> may get sent to bed without dinner again.

And you'll sit there thinking more bogus reasons why it's semi-okay to do it

> No wait, I forgot. It is more important for some folks here to nag Bass
> about some stupid login in rather than look at the big picture and see
what
> this monster company is doing to this industry.

Hey another bogus reason!

> It is mostly by accidental
> blunder so far, but it still looks like a cross between Godzilla loose in
> Tokyo and Saddam leaving Kuwait. Kind of like their site being so
unattended
> and just left with errors and broken links; with a 'if you don't like it,
> too bad' type attitude.

I haven't seen a broken link on the site in ages, if anything Honeywell has
vastly improved on Ademco's old site (not that it was bad).

You seem to be on their sites a lot considering what they supposedly do to
the industry

> But if these monster companies ever get serious, as
> one of Bass' more famous digs at his detractors goes could turn prophetic
> instead, and we could all end up just being clerks somewhere.

Ahh the infamous Walmart scare tactic, it holds no water.

Speaking of massive conglomerates getting into the alarm industry what
happened to them?
1. AT&T (8000...enough said)
2. Sprint  (FonSafe anyone?)
3. Telcoms (big 0)
4. Power companies (late 1990's, caused massive consolidation and more
business for small companies)

> Remember to GE all gear is the same. They always say they can do what
anyone
> else can. The GE mantra is that the only thing that should matter to you
as
> dealer or integrator, as well as the customer, is that they're GE.

And if you don't like it you can....you can.....hey go to Napco, Honeywell,
Visonic, DSC, Linear.....did I leave anyone out?