RE: New lighting wiring

["Richard" <rich_lists@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I have tried it with some MR16 sized LED globes =96 they had a really
small
range of motion of the dimmer to go from full to nothing =96 to be expected
since there is a smoothing cap in the globes to remove flicker so it will
still get the peak voltage they expect down to the point they are only
getting  =BD the ac cycle.

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Little bit lower and they were out.

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I trued a GU10 based mains powered MR16 and the results were=85 shall we
sa=
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that smell lingers=85

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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Marcus Warrington
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:55 AM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New lighting wiring

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The LED's are in the bathroom so are definitely transformer fed (12v and
on an RCD spur).

Does the minimum load rating still apply with the transformer and how
do I calculate the load of the transformer ?

If the dimmer is ramped up (i.e. slow start like a LD11 does) would the
transformer cope with that or would it better to simply "toggle"
between
0% and 100% ?=20

Marcus=20

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Sent: 24 January 2008 10:42
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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New lighting wiring

Transformer based should be ok because the transformer should eat the
leakage current.

The problem are the 230 volt leds because they have a series capacitor
to
drop the voltage so overheat on anything with harmonics.

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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New lighting wiring

Ahh yes, forgot about the *minimum* load requirements of an LD11. :-(

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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New lighting wiring

That *may* be ok as the overheating problems/catastrophic failures were
to
do with CFL lamps not LEDs. That said there could be problems if the LED
load is below the minimum load of the dimmer - I've seen LEDs flashing
on/off when the dimmer was supposedly in the off state - was a Lutron
leading edge dimmer from their Homeworks system though so an X10 dimmer
may
have a different effect.

Neil B.

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Subject: RE: [ukha_d] New lighting wiring

Ho Hum... I guess my plan to use an LD11, toggled 0% to 100% (by
Homevision) , as a quite relay to turn on some 12v LED bathroom lighting
(running on a 240v transformer) probably isn't a good idea then.

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