Re: is x10.com dead?

["Dennis" <djr-google.djrlar@xxxxxxxx>]

Robbert,

There's one big problem with the x10 alternatives. Most of the
automation packages, such as HAL, do not support them. If I understand
the new Smart Home system, it uses the X10 protocol but enhances it by
sending it over both the power line and RF methods.  This would appear
to be a good solution to both the reliability problems and the support
issue. Have you, or anyone else, had any experience using this system?

Dennis

Robert L Bass wrote:
> > I hear what you're saying, it's just not worth the aggravation.
>
> I agree.  I stopped using X10 years ago because I don't have
> patience with hardware that works *most* of the time, fails
> regularly, can't handle interference from much of my other
> hardware, etc.
>
> Then again, I'm not willing to spend the price per load that
> Lutron demands for Radio RA.  That and a past bad experience with
> Lutron kept me from considering it.
>
> I feel that Zwave is an acceptable alternative.  Like Radio RA,
> it is still missing a few desirable features.  Unlike X10, it
> works reliably and failure rates are quite low.  It's
> significantly less than the cost of RA though more than twice the
> cost of X10.
>
> I understand the need to economize and the willingness of many
> hobbyists to tolerate frequent hassles with X10.  That is just as
> valid as the desire for 100% reliability and the willingness to
> pay for it.  It's the reason companies like mine sell DSC and
> Napco, Sanyo and Aiphone or *X10 and Elk.  In short, there's a
> legitimate market for X10 and higher quality systems.
>
> * I rarely sell any X10 stuff though I do sell X10 control
> components with several of my security and HA systems.
>
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> Robert L Bass
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