Re: What is the Gadget Flashing?

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Nov 21, 10:51=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 8:53=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Nov 21, 10:50=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 19, 9:11=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 18, 2:01=A0am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 17, 9:11=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 17, 7:57=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 10:23=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrot=
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> > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 6:27=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:29=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> w=
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> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:35=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 10:26=A0pm, Jack <country...@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=
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> > > > > > > > > > > > What is the flashing device that's connected to thi=
s DSC panel?
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> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDUHLpf5nRcs&feature=
=3Drelated
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> > > > > > > > > > > > My Mother in Law is looking into replacing her pane=
l with an Alexor
> > > > > > > > > > > > panel from DSC. Will she be able to use her existin=
g sensors? A security
> > > > > > > > > > > > dealer dropped off a few pamphlets for her to check=
 out. I have read the
> > > > > > > > > > > > previous posts on this group regarding this panel a=
nd it's up and down
> > > > > > > > > > > > as to whether the group recommends this panel. What=
's the latest word on
> > > > > > > > > > > > this panel?
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> > > > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about the Alexor panels except =
that I heard that
> > > > > > > > > > > there was some kind of problem with it regarding loss=
 of wireless
> > > > > > > > > > > communication without there being any notice, which D=
SC denied. So
> > > > > > > > > > > it's just the word of a central station who lost cont=
act with all of
> > > > > > > > > > > it's Alexo panels at the same time for a day or two, =
=A0against DSC who
> > > > > > > > > > > said it must be something that the central station di=
d wrong.
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> > > > > > > > > > > =A0However, if that green light is really on a GSM re=
ceiver that's
> > > > > > > > > > > sitting next to your keypad, I'd really find another =
alarm company to
> > > > > > > > > > > deal with. That device should be hidden away somewher=
e so it is not
> > > > > > > > > > > just hanging on the wall beside a keypad. I mean come=
 ON! =A0it's a
> > > > > > > > > > > security device that if compromised by an intruder co=
uld cause the
> > > > > > > > > > > system to not communicate with your central station. =
It should be
> > > > > > > > > > > installed kind of hidden away somewhere and as high a=
s possible in the
> > > > > > > > > > > house to obtain the best communication advantage to t=
he local towers
> > > > > > > > > > > in your area. And even if it does do that being mount=
ed beside your
> > > > > > > > > > > keypad, it looks like someone just got lazy and could=
n't be bothered
> > > > > > > > > > > making the installation look professional to some deg=
ree. Seeing this
> > > > > > > > > > > makes me wonder what ELSE ..... they didn't do =A0...=
.. that you can't
> > > > > > > > > > > see.
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> > > > > > > > > > > I'd certainly get someone else in to give you an esti=
mate and see what
> > > > > > > > > > > they say when they see the location of the transmitte=
r.
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> > > > > > > > > > RHC: Just a side note Jim; I have several dozen of the =
Alexor panels
> > > > > > > > > > in service now in homes where is is IMPOSSIBLE to insta=
ll a
> > > > > > > > > > conventional alarm, and they are proving to be decent a=
larms, albeit a
> > > > > > > > > > bit on the expensive side. The only service issue that =
has come up
> > > > > > > > > > (and it comes up with ALL of the panels) is the four do=
uble A
> > > > > > > > > > batteries in the keypad only last about four months bef=
ore needing
> > > > > > > > > > changing. When I install the system, I show the client =
how do do this
> > > > > > > > > > since it IS going to come up. Other than that I have no=
t had the issue
> > > > > > > > > > you describe with loss of communication, or for that ma=
tter, ANY other
> > > > > > > > > > service related problem with them.
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> > > > > > > > > > To avoid this problem, the client can have the installe=
r include a $20
> > > > > > > > > > transformer that plugs into the keypad and an AC outlet=
, which makes
> > > > > > > > > > the batteries in those cases only "backup" in nature.-
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> > > > > > > > > I don't know the details of the incident but I would susp=
ect that it
> > > > > > > > > was just a local tower issue. What was of bigger concern =
to the
> > > > > > > > > Central station is that there was no indication that the =
network was
> > > > > > > > > down until people started calling in that they were getti=
ng no respnse
> > > > > > > > > from central station from alarm conditions.
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> > > > > > > > > I don't use DSC anything .... so I don't have any first h=
and knowledge
> > > > > > > > > of this.
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> > > > > > > > > With regard to the keypad battery problem I'd just automa=
tically
> > > > > > > > > install the power source for the keypad and tell the cust=
omer that the
> > > > > > > > > battery was only for standby power. Make a plus out of a =
negative.
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> > > > > > > > RHC; Easier said than done when inevitably, the keypad is t=
o be
> > > > > > > > installed in the front lobby where there never seems to be =
an outlet
> > > > > > > > handy (within 6 feet). Good idea though, but wouldn't work =
in many if
> > > > > > > > not most situations....
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> > > > > > > Why should it matter if an outlet isn't within 6 feet?
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> > > > > > RHC; Unless you want to run a long extension cord, the transfor=
mer
> > > > > > only comes with a 6 foot connection cord from the AC outlet to =
the
> > > > > > keypad. Since this kit also comes with a mounting stand, I have=
 to
> > > > > > assume that anyone buying it is planning to install it on a kit=
chen
> > > > > > counter or some such place where an AC outlet is conveniently
> > > > > > available. But in the front hall of the homes here there is nev=
er an
> > > > > > outlet available close to the desired wall mounting position.
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> > > > > I figured that was the reason, anyone placing the keypad based on=
 how
> > > > > long the power supply cord is shouldn't be installing one
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> > > > RHC: That's a pretty harsh judgment......-
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> > > That's alright. If he actually had any experience and knew how to
> > > install anything, he'd be doing it.
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> > > All he knows about the installation business is what he's heard. Just
> > > because he hasn't had the fortitude to advance himself, or the abilit=
y
> > > to run his own business, he can now hide his incompetence in field
> > > work and profess to be an expert by parroting all of the feedback and
> > > hearsay that he's picked up over the to-many years he's been stuck in
> > > the same job.
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> > > People who live in glass houses give me a pane.
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> > I did install I just never placed equipment based on the length of a
> > $5 power supply cord. I guess if running your own business means you
> > get to do that kind of stuff then yes you got me there.-
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> I don't "got" you. =A0And even if I did, it would be no great
> accomplishment. You're not that smart. However what you are is a
> vindictive asshole who obviously doesn't know how nor wants to be
> sociable. You never seem to have anything nice to say to anyone. Could
> be frustration with your repetitive boring life.
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> Instead of masturbating here to relieve your frustrations, why don't
> you try it in private.

RHC: Guys, lets step back a bit here and take a deep breath !!  As I
remember it, when RLB was alive and contributing, the newsgroup often
took a step backward into angry retorts, recriminations and overall
bad vibes. It happened because we all let our answers and opinions
become too personal, and too closely related to the person it was
directed too, and we ended up taking shots at each other, rather than
dealing with the technical facts and issues in an objective,
professional fashion. If we don't want to see what's left of this
newsgroup go back down that same rat hole, may I respectfully suggest
we keep to the subjects at hand and forget the personalities here....

Just another opinion....