Re: What is the Gadget Flashing?

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Nov 19, 9:11=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Nov 18, 2:01=A0am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Nov 17, 9:11=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 17, 7:57=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 16, 10:23=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 16, 6:27=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:29=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:35=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 10:26=A0pm, Jack <country...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wro=
te:
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> > > > > > > > > What is the flashing device that's connected to this DSC =
panel?
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> > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDUHLpf5nRcs&feature=3Drel=
ated
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> > > > > > > > > My Mother in Law is looking into replacing her panel with=
 an Alexor
> > > > > > > > > panel from DSC. Will she be able to use her existing sens=
ors? A security
> > > > > > > > > dealer dropped off a few pamphlets for her to check out. =
I have read the
> > > > > > > > > previous posts on this group regarding this panel and it'=
s up and down
> > > > > > > > > as to whether the group recommends this panel. What's the=
 latest word on
> > > > > > > > > this panel?
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> > > > > > > > I don't know anything about the Alexor panels except that I=
 heard that
> > > > > > > > there was some kind of problem with it regarding loss of wi=
reless
> > > > > > > > communication without there being any notice, which DSC den=
ied. So
> > > > > > > > it's just the word of a central station who lost contact wi=
th all of
> > > > > > > > it's Alexo panels at the same time for a day or two, =A0aga=
inst DSC who
> > > > > > > > said it must be something that the central station did wron=
g.
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> > > > > > > > =A0However, if that green light is really on a GSM receiver=
 that's
> > > > > > > > sitting next to your keypad, I'd really find another alarm =
company to
> > > > > > > > deal with. That device should be hidden away somewhere so i=
t is not
> > > > > > > > just hanging on the wall beside a keypad. I mean come ON! =
=A0it's a
> > > > > > > > security device that if compromised by an intruder could ca=
use the
> > > > > > > > system to not communicate with your central station. It sho=
uld be
> > > > > > > > installed kind of hidden away somewhere and as high as poss=
ible in the
> > > > > > > > house to obtain the best communication advantage to the loc=
al towers
> > > > > > > > in your area. And even if it does do that being mounted bes=
ide your
> > > > > > > > keypad, it looks like someone just got lazy and couldn't be=
 bothered
> > > > > > > > making the installation look professional to some degree. S=
eeing this
> > > > > > > > makes me wonder what ELSE ..... they didn't do =A0..... tha=
t you can't
> > > > > > > > see.
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> > > > > > > > I'd certainly get someone else in to give you an estimate a=
nd see what
> > > > > > > > they say when they see the location of the transmitter.
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> > > > > > > RHC: Just a side note Jim; I have several dozen of the Alexor=
 panels
> > > > > > > in service now in homes where is is IMPOSSIBLE to install a
> > > > > > > conventional alarm, and they are proving to be decent alarms,=
 albeit a
> > > > > > > bit on the expensive side. The only service issue that has co=
me up
> > > > > > > (and it comes up with ALL of the panels) is the four double A
> > > > > > > batteries in the keypad only last about four months before ne=
eding
> > > > > > > changing. When I install the system, I show the client how do=
 do this
> > > > > > > since it IS going to come up. Other than that I have not had =
the issue
> > > > > > > you describe with loss of communication, or for that matter, =
ANY other
> > > > > > > service related problem with them.
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> > > > > > > To avoid this problem, the client can have the installer incl=
ude a $20
> > > > > > > transformer that plugs into the keypad and an AC outlet, whic=
h makes
> > > > > > > the batteries in those cases only "backup" in nature.-
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> > > > > > I don't know the details of the incident but I would suspect th=
at it
> > > > > > was just a local tower issue. What was of bigger concern to the
> > > > > > Central station is that there was no indication that the networ=
k was
> > > > > > down until people started calling in that they were getting no =
respnse
> > > > > > from central station from alarm conditions.
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> > > > > > I don't use DSC anything .... so I don't have any first hand kn=
owledge
> > > > > > of this.
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> > > > > > With regard to the keypad battery problem I'd just automaticall=
y
> > > > > > install the power source for the keypad and tell the customer t=
hat the
> > > > > > battery was only for standby power. Make a plus out of a negati=
ve.
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> > > > > RHC; Easier said than done when inevitably, the keypad is to be
> > > > > installed in the front lobby where there never seems to be an out=
let
> > > > > handy (within 6 feet). Good idea though, but wouldn't work in man=
y if
> > > > > not most situations....
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> > > > Why should it matter if an outlet isn't within 6 feet?
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> > > RHC; Unless you want to run a long extension cord, the transformer
> > > only comes with a 6 foot connection cord from the AC outlet to the
> > > keypad. Since this kit also comes with a mounting stand, I have to
> > > assume that anyone buying it is planning to install it on a kitchen
> > > counter or some such place where an AC outlet is conveniently
> > > available. But in the front hall of the homes here there is never an
> > > outlet available close to the desired wall mounting position.
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> > I figured that was the reason, anyone placing the keypad based on how
> > long the power supply cord is shouldn't be installing one
>
> RHC: That's a pretty harsh judgment......-


That's alright. If he actually had any experience and knew how to
install anything, he'd be doing it.

All he knows about the installation business is what he's heard. Just
because he hasn't had the fortitude to advance himself, or the ability
to run his own business, he can now hide his incompetence in field
work and profess to be an expert by parroting all of the feedback and
hearsay that he's picked up over the to-many years he's been stuck in
the same job.

People who live in glass houses give me a pane.