Re: What is the Gadget Flashing?

[mleuck <m.leuck@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Nov 21, 10:50=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Nov 19, 9:11=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Nov 18, 2:01=A0am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 17, 9:11=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 17, 7:57=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 16, 10:23=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 16, 6:27=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:29=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote=
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> > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:35=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 10:26=A0pm, Jack <country...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> w=
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> > > > > > > > > > What is the flashing device that's connected to this DS=
C panel?
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> > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDUHLpf5nRcs&feature=3Dr=
elated
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> > > > > > > > > > My Mother in Law is looking into replacing her panel wi=
th an Alexor
> > > > > > > > > > panel from DSC. Will she be able to use her existing se=
nsors? A security
> > > > > > > > > > dealer dropped off a few pamphlets for her to check out=
. I have read the
> > > > > > > > > > previous posts on this group regarding this panel and i=
t's up and down
> > > > > > > > > > as to whether the group recommends this panel. What's t=
he latest word on
> > > > > > > > > > this panel?
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> > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about the Alexor panels except that=
 I heard that
> > > > > > > > > there was some kind of problem with it regarding loss of =
wireless
> > > > > > > > > communication without there being any notice, which DSC d=
enied. So
> > > > > > > > > it's just the word of a central station who lost contact =
with all of
> > > > > > > > > it's Alexo panels at the same time for a day or two, =A0a=
gainst DSC who
> > > > > > > > > said it must be something that the central station did wr=
ong.
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> > > > > > > > > =A0However, if that green light is really on a GSM receiv=
er that's
> > > > > > > > > sitting next to your keypad, I'd really find another alar=
m company to
> > > > > > > > > deal with. That device should be hidden away somewhere so=
 it is not
> > > > > > > > > just hanging on the wall beside a keypad. I mean come ON!=
 =A0it's a
> > > > > > > > > security device that if compromised by an intruder could =
cause the
> > > > > > > > > system to not communicate with your central station. It s=
hould be
> > > > > > > > > installed kind of hidden away somewhere and as high as po=
ssible in the
> > > > > > > > > house to obtain the best communication advantage to the l=
ocal towers
> > > > > > > > > in your area. And even if it does do that being mounted b=
eside your
> > > > > > > > > keypad, it looks like someone just got lazy and couldn't =
be bothered
> > > > > > > > > making the installation look professional to some degree.=
 Seeing this
> > > > > > > > > makes me wonder what ELSE ..... they didn't do =A0..... t=
hat you can't
> > > > > > > > > see.
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> > > > > > > > > I'd certainly get someone else in to give you an estimate=
 and see what
> > > > > > > > > they say when they see the location of the transmitter.
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> > > > > > > > RHC: Just a side note Jim; I have several dozen of the Alex=
or panels
> > > > > > > > in service now in homes where is is IMPOSSIBLE to install a
> > > > > > > > conventional alarm, and they are proving to be decent alarm=
s, albeit a
> > > > > > > > bit on the expensive side. The only service issue that has =
come up
> > > > > > > > (and it comes up with ALL of the panels) is the four double=
 A
> > > > > > > > batteries in the keypad only last about four months before =
needing
> > > > > > > > changing. When I install the system, I show the client how =
do do this
> > > > > > > > since it IS going to come up. Other than that I have not ha=
d the issue
> > > > > > > > you describe with loss of communication, or for that matter=
, ANY other
> > > > > > > > service related problem with them.
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> > > > > > > > To avoid this problem, the client can have the installer in=
clude a $20
> > > > > > > > transformer that plugs into the keypad and an AC outlet, wh=
ich makes
> > > > > > > > the batteries in those cases only "backup" in nature.-
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> > > > > > > I don't know the details of the incident but I would suspect =
that it
> > > > > > > was just a local tower issue. What was of bigger concern to t=
he
> > > > > > > Central station is that there was no indication that the netw=
ork was
> > > > > > > down until people started calling in that they were getting n=
o respnse
> > > > > > > from central station from alarm conditions.
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> > > > > > > I don't use DSC anything .... so I don't have any first hand =
knowledge
> > > > > > > of this.
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> > > > > > > With regard to the keypad battery problem I'd just automatica=
lly
> > > > > > > install the power source for the keypad and tell the customer=
 that the
> > > > > > > battery was only for standby power. Make a plus out of a nega=
tive.
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> > > > > > RHC; Easier said than done when inevitably, the keypad is to be
> > > > > > installed in the front lobby where there never seems to be an o=
utlet
> > > > > > handy (within 6 feet). Good idea though, but wouldn't work in m=
any if
> > > > > > not most situations....
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> > > > > Why should it matter if an outlet isn't within 6 feet?
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> > > > RHC; Unless you want to run a long extension cord, the transformer
> > > > only comes with a 6 foot connection cord from the AC outlet to the
> > > > keypad. Since this kit also comes with a mounting stand, I have to
> > > > assume that anyone buying it is planning to install it on a kitchen
> > > > counter or some such place where an AC outlet is conveniently
> > > > available. But in the front hall of the homes here there is never a=
n
> > > > outlet available close to the desired wall mounting position.
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> > > I figured that was the reason, anyone placing the keypad based on how
> > > long the power supply cord is shouldn't be installing one
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> > RHC: That's a pretty harsh judgment......-
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> That's alright. If he actually had any experience and knew how to
> install anything, he'd be doing it.
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> All he knows about the installation business is what he's heard. Just
> because he hasn't had the fortitude to advance himself, or the ability
> to run his own business, he can now hide his incompetence in field
> work and profess to be an expert by parroting all of the feedback and
> hearsay that he's picked up over the to-many years he's been stuck in
> the same job.
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> People who live in glass houses give me a pane.

I did install I just never placed equipment based on the length of a
$5 power supply cord. I guess if running your own business means you
get to do that kind of stuff then yes you got me there.