Re: What is the Gadget Flashing?

[Jim <alarminex@xxxxxxx>]

On Nov 22, 10:26=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Nov 21, 10:51=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Nov 21, 8:53=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Nov 21, 10:50=A0am, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 19, 9:11=A0am, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > On Nov 18, 2:01=A0am, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Nov 17, 9:11=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Nov 17, 7:57=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 10:23=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wr=
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> > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 6:27=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 4:29=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx>=
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 16, 12:35=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Nov 15, 10:26=A0pm, Jack <country...@xxxxxxxxxxx=
net> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > What is the flashing device that's connected to t=
his DSC panel?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DDUHLpf5nRcs&featu=
re=3Drelated
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > My Mother in Law is looking into replacing her pa=
nel with an Alexor
> > > > > > > > > > > > > panel from DSC. Will she be able to use her exist=
ing sensors? A security
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dealer dropped off a few pamphlets for her to che=
ck out. I have read the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > previous posts on this group regarding this panel=
 and it's up and down
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as to whether the group recommends this panel. Wh=
at's the latest word on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > this panel?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about the Alexor panels excep=
t that I heard that
> > > > > > > > > > > > there was some kind of problem with it regarding lo=
ss of wireless
> > > > > > > > > > > > communication without there being any notice, which=
 DSC denied. So
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's just the word of a central station who lost co=
ntact with all of
> > > > > > > > > > > > it's Alexo panels at the same time for a day or two=
, =A0against DSC who
> > > > > > > > > > > > said it must be something that the central station =
did wrong.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > =A0However, if that green light is really on a GSM =
receiver that's
> > > > > > > > > > > > sitting next to your keypad, I'd really find anothe=
r alarm company to
> > > > > > > > > > > > deal with. That device should be hidden away somewh=
ere so it is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > just hanging on the wall beside a keypad. I mean co=
me ON! =A0it's a
> > > > > > > > > > > > security device that if compromised by an intruder =
could cause the
> > > > > > > > > > > > system to not communicate with your central station=
. It should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > installed kind of hidden away somewhere and as high=
 as possible in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > house to obtain the best communication advantage to=
 the local towers
> > > > > > > > > > > > in your area. And even if it does do that being mou=
nted beside your
> > > > > > > > > > > > keypad, it looks like someone just got lazy and cou=
ldn't be bothered
> > > > > > > > > > > > making the installation look professional to some d=
egree. Seeing this
> > > > > > > > > > > > makes me wonder what ELSE ..... they didn't do =A0.=
.... that you can't
> > > > > > > > > > > > see.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I'd certainly get someone else in to give you an es=
timate and see what
> > > > > > > > > > > > they say when they see the location of the transmit=
ter.
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> > > > > > > > > > > RHC: Just a side note Jim; I have several dozen of th=
e Alexor panels
> > > > > > > > > > > in service now in homes where is is IMPOSSIBLE to ins=
tall a
> > > > > > > > > > > conventional alarm, and they are proving to be decent=
 alarms, albeit a
> > > > > > > > > > > bit on the expensive side. The only service issue tha=
t has come up
> > > > > > > > > > > (and it comes up with ALL of the panels) is the four =
double A
> > > > > > > > > > > batteries in the keypad only last about four months b=
efore needing
> > > > > > > > > > > changing. When I install the system, I show the clien=
t how do do this
> > > > > > > > > > > since it IS going to come up. Other than that I have =
not had the issue
> > > > > > > > > > > you describe with loss of communication, or for that =
matter, ANY other
> > > > > > > > > > > service related problem with them.
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> > > > > > > > > > > To avoid this problem, the client can have the instal=
ler include a $20
> > > > > > > > > > > transformer that plugs into the keypad and an AC outl=
et, which makes
> > > > > > > > > > > the batteries in those cases only "backup" in nature.=
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> > > > > > > > > > I don't know the details of the incident but I would su=
spect that it
> > > > > > > > > > was just a local tower issue. What was of bigger concer=
n to the
> > > > > > > > > > Central station is that there was no indication that th=
e network was
> > > > > > > > > > down until people started calling in that they were get=
ting no respnse
> > > > > > > > > > from central station from alarm conditions.
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> > > > > > > > > > I don't use DSC anything .... so I don't have any first=
 hand knowledge
> > > > > > > > > > of this.
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> > > > > > > > > > With regard to the keypad battery problem I'd just auto=
matically
> > > > > > > > > > install the power source for the keypad and tell the cu=
stomer that the
> > > > > > > > > > battery was only for standby power. Make a plus out of =
a negative.
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> > > > > > > > > RHC; Easier said than done when inevitably, the keypad is=
 to be
> > > > > > > > > installed in the front lobby where there never seems to b=
e an outlet
> > > > > > > > > handy (within 6 feet). Good idea though, but wouldn't wor=
k in many if
> > > > > > > > > not most situations....
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> > > > > > > > Why should it matter if an outlet isn't within 6 feet?
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> > > > > > > RHC; Unless you want to run a long extension cord, the transf=
ormer
> > > > > > > only comes with a 6 foot connection cord from the AC outlet t=
o the
> > > > > > > keypad. Since this kit also comes with a mounting stand, I ha=
ve to
> > > > > > > assume that anyone buying it is planning to install it on a k=
itchen
> > > > > > > counter or some such place where an AC outlet is conveniently
> > > > > > > available. But in the front hall of the homes here there is n=
ever an
> > > > > > > outlet available close to the desired wall mounting position.
>
> > > > > > I figured that was the reason, anyone placing the keypad based =
on how
> > > > > > long the power supply cord is shouldn't be installing one
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> > > > > RHC: That's a pretty harsh judgment......-
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> > > > That's alright. If he actually had any experience and knew how to
> > > > install anything, he'd be doing it.
>
> > > > All he knows about the installation business is what he's heard. Ju=
st
> > > > because he hasn't had the fortitude to advance himself, or the abil=
ity
> > > > to run his own business, he can now hide his incompetence in field
> > > > work and profess to be an expert by parroting all of the feedback a=
nd
> > > > hearsay that he's picked up over the to-many years he's been stuck =
in
> > > > the same job.
>
> > > > People who live in glass houses give me a pane.
>
> > > I did install I just never placed equipment based on the length of a
> > > $5 power supply cord. I guess if running your own business means you
> > > get to do that kind of stuff then yes you got me there.-
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> > I don't "got" you. =A0And even if I did, it would be no great
> > accomplishment. You're not that smart. However what you are is a
> > vindictive asshole who obviously doesn't know how nor wants to be
> > sociable. You never seem to have anything nice to say to anyone. Could
> > be frustration with your repetitive boring life.
>
> > Instead of masturbating here to relieve your frustrations, why don't
> > you try it in private.
>
> RHC: Guys, lets step back a bit here and take a deep breath !! =A0As I
> remember it, when RLB was alive and contributing, the newsgroup often
> took a step backward into angry retorts, recriminations and overall
> bad vibes. It happened because we all let our answers and opinions
> become too personal, and too closely related to the person it was
> directed too, and we ended up taking shots at each other, rather than
> dealing with the technical facts and issues in an objective,
> professional fashion. If we don't want to see what's left of this
> newsgroup go back down that same rat hole, may I respectfully suggest
> we keep to the subjects at hand and forget the personalities here....
>
> Just another opinion....-


I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. I'm a nice guy. I'm a
nice guy. ..... (sigh). ............... then I'm not.