Re: 60-806 help

[brihyn <brihyn@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Apr 19, 12:52=A0am, Frank Olson <use-the-email-
li...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> brihyn wrote:
> > Considering I'm a network engineer and manage around 150 servers
> > myself, I don't really mind fixing my own computeer on a friday night.
> > And having previously been in a position of qa'ing and doing component-
> > level repairs on security and fire alarm circuit boards (read: I had
> > to troubleshoot down to the individual integrated circuiit or circuite
> > board trace), along with designing and implementing my own fully
> > functional monitoring system at the previous house, this doesn't seem
> > that bad to me.
>
> Well, you're "one up" on me... =A0I would NEVER undertake to do a board
> level repair on a fire alarm system... =A0But then, I run a service
> company that has obligations that go beyond "fat fingering" a part of a
> life safety system whereas you... manage servers... =A0Gee... =A0If my
> server goes "down", it means I can't get emails... =A0Oh bliss!!! =A0:-)
>
> > Again, if I can get the programmer board and installer manual, I can
> > reset the thing back to original defaults and reprogram it myself. And
> > really, is having it unplugged right now worse than having it plugged
> > in but unusable, as it was prior to me "randomly pushing buttons"???
> > We've been here 6 months and up until now, the security system was
> > useless.
> > So thanks for the condescending attitude, but can we get back to
> > actually answering my original question?
>
> "Programmer board"??? =A0Where'd you get that notion?? =A0And all the
> installer manual will tell you at this point is that you can't enter
> programming mode while the system is armed. =A0There is no "east tunnel"
> and there is no "back door" into your system. =A0What part of "hooped"
> don't you understand, "Mr. Network Engineer"??
>
> You're back to "square one". =A0You have to replace the common control
> board (easy for a Network Engineer that manages 150 servers), and then
> program your system "from scratch"... =A0I won't say that'll be "easy" as
> you're having difficulty understanding the concept of being "hooped"...
> =A0 but I can hope! =A0:-)

Frank-
My comments were not meant towards you originally. Your first 2
replies were indeed helpful, and I don't doubt I messed up. And i
worked for a fire/security alarm manufacturer as a QA tech. So I have
a pretty thorough understanding of how the boards actually operate
behind the scenes. I wasn't just seeing how shit worked. People's
lives did actually depend on me knowing how to read a fire alarm's
circuit board.
But as for the rest your snarky reply, yeah, you don't get email. But
there's a hell of a lot of critical systems that run on servers. An
outage can cost a hell of a lot more money in 30 minutes of downtime
in my company than someone walking away with everything in my house.
And frankly, the fact that the security i put in place in my networks
is securing a pretty large chunk of the nation's health insurance
records seems a bit more risky than the chimp who installed the system
in this house undertook.
And where did i get the notion of an installer manual and programmer
board helping me? from quite a few boards. Do a google on "reset
60-806" yourself and see where I might have gotten that idea.  Yes, i
could send this in so that they could reprogram the EEProm. Or I could
simply short out the reset pins and reprogram the door, window, and
glass break zones myself, just like the installer who original put the
system in place had to do. Wow....you're right. I don't have the
skills that most security installers get in their monkey training
classes (and sure, there are quite a few decent installers out there.
But I've run into a hell of a lot more who had absolutely no idea what
security really means installing in corporate offices).
So again, thanks for your first two replies. They WERE helpful, and I
don't deny that I probably shouldn't have been jacking with the thing.
But kiss my butt on your last email. You still haven't denied that I'm
no worse off tonight than i was a day ago.