Re: 60-806 help

[Frank Olson <use-the-email-links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

brihyn wrote:

>
> Frank-
> My comments were not meant towards you originally. Your first 2
> replies were indeed helpful, and I don't doubt I messed up. And i
> worked for a fire/security alarm manufacturer as a QA tech. So I have
> a pretty thorough understanding of how the boards actually operate
> behind the scenes. I wasn't just seeing how shit worked. People's
> lives did actually depend on me knowing how to read a fire alarm's
> circuit board.

There are several things that you've stated that just plain don't make
sense (not that I'm "counting").  As a "QA Tech", I don't quite
understand how "people's lives" depended on your ability to be able to
"read a fire alarm's circuit board".  It either "works" or it doesn't.
I've worked with several fire alarm manufacturers and their "QA Techs"
did nothing more than plug the board in and ensure it passed the test
parameters set by the guys that engineered the thing.  If it didn't, the
unit was "diverted" back to R&D.  Now... If you'd told us you were into
R&D that would be an entirely different kettle of fish.


> But as for the rest your snarky reply, yeah, you don't get email.

It wasn't intended to be "snarky".  Notice the smiley??


> But
> there's a hell of a lot of critical systems that run on servers. An
> outage can cost a hell of a lot more money in 30 minutes of downtime
> in my company than someone walking away with everything in my house.

I agree completely and I didn't intend to demean your work as a network
engineer.


> And frankly, the fact that the security i put in place in my networks
> is securing a pretty large chunk of the nation's health insurance
> records seems a bit more risky than the chimp who installed the system
> in this house undertook.

Uh-huh...  That "chimp" do a poor job??  Why blame your own stupidity
(for pushing buttons at random on a system you have admitted you don't
have the codes for) on the "chimp that installed your system??  And why
demean the individual (and the people that participate in this forum)
with the use of such derogatory remarks??  Do you intend to win us over?
  I don't think you're going about it in just quite the right way.


> And where did i get the notion of an installer manual and programmer
> board helping me? from quite a few boards. Do a google on "reset
> 60-806" yourself and see where I might have gotten that idea.  Yes, i
> could send this in so that they could reprogram the EEProm. Or I could
> simply short out the reset pins and reprogram the door, window, and
> glass break zones myself, just like the installer who original put the
> system in place had to do. Wow....you're right. I don't have the
> skills that most security installers get in their monkey training
> classes (and sure, there are quite a few decent installers out there.
> But I've run into a hell of a lot more who had absolutely no idea what
> security really means installing in corporate offices).

Y'know...  I'm not even going to go where you're going here.  I'm just
going to let your comments stand on their own.  It demonstrates beyond
measure what you think about the people in our industry.  Why I even
bothered to respond to such an arrogant, opinionated asshole I'll never
know.  You should read up on Netiquette before participating in a
message board such as this.  The "smileys" I placed in several key parts
of the response which has engendered such a reply on your part should
have clued you in to the fact that what I said was in jest.


> So again, thanks for your first two replies. They WERE helpful, and I
> don't deny that I probably shouldn't have been jacking with the thing.
> But kiss my butt on your last email. You still haven't denied that I'm
> no worse off tonight than i was a day ago.

And why should I?  You are no worse off than you were a day ago, unless
of course, your system also employs smoke detectors, in which case,
killing the panel circumvents their usefulness and places your family at
risk (as Joe has already pointed out).  Good job, Mr. Network Engineer!