Re: Fire Side Chat -- Fire Alarm Code Issue

["Frank Olson" <feolson@xxxxxxxxxx>]

"Robert L. Bass" <robertlbass@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> We're talking about a residential security system (or auto-dialler),
>> *not* a listed fire alarm system.
>
> You fail to understand that residential fire alarms are covered by the
> same code.

Residential fire alarms are, yes.  Residential security systems are not.
Every residential security system out there is capable of being programmed
to monitor fire detection devices (even the non-UL listed ones).  There is
no requirement to upgrade such a panel to one that's UL listed for fire if
the homeowner decides to add a relay to monitor his smoke alarms.


>
>> Attaching a fire detection device to your
>> residential security system does *not* turn
>> it into a fire alarm system!
>
> That's where you are mistaken.  When you use an alarm system to detect
> fire the system and all of components must comply with fire alarm code.


A *fire* alarm system, yes.  A burg system that the customer's decided to
terminate his smoke alarms into...  No.  There is no code or statute that
magically transforms a residential security system into a listed fire alarm
system (even the connection of fire alarm devices that are listed for use
with the basic alarm panel).  If you were to extend this argument along the
lines you advocate, you'd have to provide manual initiating stations, ADA
approved visual appliances, etc.  Get real, Robert.  There's no harm in
admitting you're wrong.