Re: Cheap DVR's Get Hacked

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On Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:16:40 PM UTC-5, JoeRaisin wrote:
> On 2/3/2013 2:36 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
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> >>> On Sunday, February 3, 2013 7:25:35 AM UTC-5, G. Morgan wrote:
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> >>>>> I've also installed cameras in Micro Chip manufacturing Clean Rooms=
, and Protected Cray Super Computer Facilities. When you see all of those "=
Traffic Safety Cameras", ever wonder why there is a need for these "Safety"=
 cameras in some of the most rural areas with no real traffic problems?
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> >>>> Interesting points...  I'll get back to you on the cool stuff.
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> >>>> 'cameras' were IR sensors to detect engine heat, for sensing
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> >>>> presence/absence of vehicles.  You know, to take the place of the
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> >>>> Are you saying those are actually cameras?!  Shit, we have 6 of them=
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> >>>> told there are 100's of them in an area with ~12K households.  I use=
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> >>>> not on public websites for "us" to see the traffic.  Are you saying =
they
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> >>> They are BOTH. Below is a link to explain in in much greater detail t=
han appropriate here, however...DO NOT be fooled into thinking it is used o=
nly for traffic control. NEARLY EVERY major technological break through we =
have experienced in our lifetime has come about as a direct result of Milit=
ary development and deployment and then later introduced to the general pub=
lic in a form more "Acceptable" for use by the government to "monitor" what=
 we do, where we go, and what we say, under the guise of "protecting" us or=
 "enhancing" our lives. In other words, "How can we spy on the people and m=
ake them believe we are benefiting them in some way."
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> >>> http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/theses/available/etd-43098-201311/unrestric=
ted/APPENDIX-B2.PDF
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> >> For those who may not want to read the PDF, in short those "Cameras" o=
nly need to detect the presence of a vehicle to operate for traffic control=
, however they have the ability (or not, depending on the camera used) to s=
ee normal video, as well as detect "Occupancy" "Occupancy COUNT" and even V=
ehicle classification, profile & shape.
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> > I read the .pdf.  That is some crazy shit man. When I saw "occupancy
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> > count" and "vehicle off center in lane" PLUS driver sleeping detection
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> > that is really going overboard.  Who voted on this and why were the
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> > public not informed of the capabilities of these systems?  Yeah, I
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> > know.. assume you are being taped anywhere except home - but using
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> > What's worse is I'm just now hearing about this.  That means the
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> > Now, I wonder if they all get hooked to an OC3 trunk and monitored in
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> > some basement in Langley, VA eventually?
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The more information there is, the bigger and faster new computers will be =
to process that information. DATA is more valuable than GOLD.