Re: Opinions on backup reporting devices

[tourman <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Jul 13, 10:21=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 9:48=A0pm, mleuck <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Jul 11, 2:01=A0pm, Jim <alarmi...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > On Jul 9, 7:08=A0pm, tourman <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > > > RHC: Why would that surprise you ? Everyone wants a share of the
> > > > golden goose. Large multinationals sell their souls everyday for RM=
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> > > > Hell, companies buy each other out simply to get the lists of that
> > > > company's customers so they can target them for sales of other
> > > > recurring revenue products and services ! Even cable companies are
> > > > starting to bundles numerous services together simply to get more o=
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> > > > the recurring revenue "pie".
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> > > > Everyone wants in......but your question is no less valid-
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> > > It doesn't surprise me .... it just pisses me off.
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> > > This trade, consisting of thousands of small alarm installation
> > > companies, competeing with mega companies, who has been gradually
> > > forced to price their installations to almost cost and be mostly
> > > dependent on their recurring revenew to stay in business, are
> > > additionally being forced even further off the charts, by now, (due t=
o
> > > the unreliability of newer transmission methods,) having to use newer
> > > transmission methods that require futher erosion of their bottom line
> > > or being =A0put in the position of having to raise their prices to th=
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> > > end user with no benefit to the installing company.
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> > > The end user never sees the benefit or the disadvantages.
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> > > If this were a Jame Bond movie it would seem like an isideous plot by
> > > some unknown villain trying to slowly and subtley destroy the alarm
> > > installation trade.
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> > > All someone has to do in create a device that is just like a cell
> > > phone. Call it a "Cell Dialer" =A0When an alarm occurs, it "pushes" t=
he
> > > send button to make a call to Centrals receiver. When the receiver
> > > transmitts, the Cell Dialer "hears" the signals. When the Cell dialer
> > > is =A0done it "pushes" the End button. Put it as a second phone on th=
e
> > > customers cell phone account. It's just a freaking telephone
> > > call !!!!!
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> > > There are devices on the market that can divert your cellphone to you=
r
> > > house phones. I don't know specifically how they work but maybe that'=
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> > > an avenue to explore.
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> > > What am I missing here?
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> > I must be missing something because it sounds like you are describing
> > a standard Uplink or Telguard GSM device and I'd think you would pay
> > more for that standard 2nd phone account than you would with an Uplink
> > or Telguard..?
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> > You'd also miss out on remote access which customers like and 2-way
> > voice which sounds like you don't do anyway but from what I've seen
> > the remote access more than justifies the increase in monitoring cost
> > to the customer.-
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> If I remember right I added my wifes cell to my account and It's
> $16.00 more per month. There are services like Magic Jack that I think
> I remember someone saying that it works with alarm systems. But my
> point is ....... If it doesn't exists now .... what's the big problem
> with making a product that CAN utilize the technologies available? =A0I
> mean, everyone says that transmitting via the internet in not
> reliable ..... well why can't they develop a signal protocol that
> transmitts over the internet with parity check or repeat back or sum
> check? =A0and the answer is ..... they CAN..... and that leads to the
> FINALand REAL question ...... =A0Why do I need another F....king
> partner?

RHC: Just a note....MajicJack and it's brethren Nettalk Duo do NOT
work with alarm systems. I own both and have tried them extensively
and they don't work at all...