Re: Ping: Petem

[JoeRaisin <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx>]

petem wrote:
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> "JoeRaisin" <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
> de discussion : hi56ji$s0n$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> petem wrote:
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>>> "tourman" <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
>>> de discussion :
>>> 9ba845cc-f151-4d15-b23b-e83f3b7a5450@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On Jan 7, 10:43 am, "petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> "tourman" <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de
>>>>> groupe de
>>>>> discussion :
>>>>> 09fa01f8-cd91-4c05-bcbd-c62ba54bd...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Jan 7, 10:32 am, "petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> "mleuck" <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> a crit dans le message de groupe de
>>>>> >> discussion
>>>>> >> :
>>>>> d2f65d3a-4033-44f8-b22e-a81217da7...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> >> > On Jan 5, 9:58 am, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:30:12 -0500, "Robert L Bass"
>>>>>
>>>>> >> >> <nore...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> >> >I'm not looking for
>>>>> >> >> >pity.  I just want to make peace with those around me.  If
>>>>> it >> >> >makes
>>>>> >> >> >you
>>>>> >> >> >feel
>>>>> >> >> >better to keep on hating me for some imagined slight, so be it.
>>>>> >> >> >That's
>>>>> >> >> >on your
>>>>> >> >> >head -- not mine.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> >> Yup.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> >> All you can do is clean your "side of the street", and that
>>>>> is >> >> done.
>>>>> >> >> If he wants to wallow in his own misery, that's his problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> >> > If he wasn't in the position he's in now he wouldn't be cleaning
>>>>> his
>>>>> >> > side of the street
>>>>>
>>>>> >> exactly  my point..
>>>>>
>>>>> >> He make a mess of his life, hurt every one, put dirt all over
>>>>> the >> place,
>>>>> >> now
>>>>> >> he want every one to forget..
>>>>>
>>>>> > RHC: No, not forget; just forgive....the Christian way to live....
>>>>>
>>>>> The sheep way of living..
>>>>
>>>> RHC: If you feel that way, there is nothing anyone can say that
>>>> matters to you. My condolences.....
>>>
>>> If you feel that way,then there is nothing that can be done about you..
>>>
>>> I prefer to live in a way were I hurt no one, unless the go on me,
>>> and at that point I defend myself.
>>> Then I dont forgive, unless it was mistake from the beginning, With
>>> bAss there is no mistake, he searched for it, he got it..
>>
>> Not everyone, dare I say hardly anyone, has lived their life in such a
>> perfect manner.
>>
>> Many folks have had a change of heart and turned their behavior around
>> for a myriad of reasons.
>>
>> That you cannot accept that shows how little you truly know of the
>> human condition.
>>
>> Or are you saying that for your whole life there is no one who may
>> have perceived any sort of slight?
>>
>> If not... well then I am humbled before you.
>>
>> Either that or you are very self centered and arrogant to have no idea
>> of how your behavior affects those around you.
>>
>
> Never said I was perfect, but I live with my guilt and dont expect
> anyone to forgive me, if I Hurted them, Thats the main difference... I
> am not selfish enough to ask other to pass over there bad feelings so
> that I can feel better.
>
> If they choose by themself to forgive me, fine its there decision and I
> will still have my guilt. But its not to me to ask, and not even wish
> this could happen.
>
> And thats my way of respecting the others that are around me, I will
> never ask to be excuse of something, I will say that I am sorry if I do
> something wrong, but wont ask for pardon.
> Thats assuming who and what I am.
>
> With me its whats you see is what you get, plain straight, no surprise,
> no game.

Tough way to live - having your emotions so dependent upon what others
think.

Extending the olive branch in and of itself brings one to peace -
whatever the reaction of the other person has little to nothing to do
with it.

That's what was meant earlier by "cleaning your own side of the street."

Your resentments are your problems, not the other person's.

And remember, holding on to a resentment is you drinking poison, hoping
the other person dies.

Have fun with that...

I've said the same things several times and, once again, your failure to
understand it is your problem.

I'll stop bothering you now and let you simmer in your own hatred.