Re: Ping: Petem

["Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

"JoeRaisin" <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe de
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> petem wrote:
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>> "JoeRaisin" <joeraisin2001@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
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>>> petem wrote:
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>>>> "tourman" <robercampbell@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
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>>>>> On Jan 7, 10:43 am, "petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> "tourman" <robercampb...@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de groupe
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>>>>>> > On Jan 7, 10:32 am, "petem" <petem...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >> "mleuck" <m.le...@xxxxxxxxx> a crit dans le message de groupe de
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>>>>>> >> > On Jan 5, 9:58 am, G. Morgan <usenet_ab...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 21:30:12 -0500, "Robert L Bass"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> <nore...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >I'm not looking for
>>>>>> >> >> >pity.  I just want to make peace with those around me.  If
>>>>>> it >> >> >makes
>>>>>> >> >> >you
>>>>>> >> >> >feel
>>>>>> >> >> >better to keep on hating me for some imagined slight, so be
>>>>>> >> >> >it.
>>>>>> >> >> >That's
>>>>>> >> >> >on your
>>>>>> >> >> >head -- not mine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> Yup.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> All you can do is clean your "side of the street", and that
>>>>>> is >> >> done.
>>>>>> >> >> If he wants to wallow in his own misery, that's his problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > If he wasn't in the position he's in now he wouldn't be cleaning
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> >> > side of the street
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> exactly  my point..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> He make a mess of his life, hurt every one, put dirt all over
>>>>>> the >> place,
>>>>>> >> now
>>>>>> >> he want every one to forget..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > RHC: No, not forget; just forgive....the Christian way to live....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sheep way of living..
>>>>>
>>>>> RHC: If you feel that way, there is nothing anyone can say that
>>>>> matters to you. My condolences.....
>>>>
>>>> If you feel that way,then there is nothing that can be done about you..
>>>>
>>>> I prefer to live in a way were I hurt no one, unless the go on me, and
>>>> at that point I defend myself.
>>>> Then I dont forgive, unless it was mistake from the beginning, With
>>>> bAss there is no mistake, he searched for it, he got it..
>>>
>>> Not everyone, dare I say hardly anyone, has lived their life in such a
>>> perfect manner.
>>>
>>> Many folks have had a change of heart and turned their behavior around
>>> for a myriad of reasons.
>>>
>>> That you cannot accept that shows how little you truly know of the human
>>> condition.
>>>
>>> Or are you saying that for your whole life there is no one who may have
>>> perceived any sort of slight?
>>>
>>> If not... well then I am humbled before you.
>>>
>>> Either that or you are very self centered and arrogant to have no idea
>>> of how your behavior affects those around you.
>>>
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>> Never said I was perfect, but I live with my guilt and dont expect anyone
>> to forgive me, if I Hurted them, Thats the main difference... I am not
>> selfish enough to ask other to pass over there bad feelings so that I can
>> feel better.
>>
>> If they choose by themself to forgive me, fine its there decision and I
>> will still have my guilt. But its not to me to ask, and not even wish
>> this could happen.
>>
>> And thats my way of respecting the others that are around me, I will
>> never ask to be excuse of something, I will say that I am sorry if I do
>> something wrong, but wont ask for pardon.
>> Thats assuming who and what I am.
>>
>> With me its whats you see is what you get, plain straight, no surprise,
>> no game.
>
> Tough way to live - having your emotions so dependent upon what others
> think.
>
Thats where you have it all wrong..
I am not dependend of what other think of me, if someone dont like me, fine,
its ok, I dont care..

> Extending the olive branch in and of itself brings one to peace - whatever
> the reaction of the other person has little to nothing to do with it.
>

No thats true for you, not every one.

> That's what was meant earlier by "cleaning your own side of the street."
>

Again, cleaning mean removing dirt, and where do this dirt goes? who is
removing it for you? and keeping it on there side, cause dirt is still there
even if its not anymore on your side..

> Your resentments are your problems, not the other person's.
>

exactly, I assume my guilt and my act, and if people would assume more there
action they would think a bit more before doing wrong.

> And remember, holding on to a resentment is you drinking poison, hoping
> the other person dies.
>

No I dont hold to resentment, but I dont dont forgive, or forget that i got
fooled or hurt by someone, they have a check beside there name, and its in
permanent ink.

> Have fun with that...
>
Thanks, I am planning on developing a game for the Wii on that subject ;-)

> I've said the same things several times and, once again, your failure to
> understand it is your problem.
>

No YOU dont understand, that I am feeling perfectly right about this, that I
am an happy man in my life, cause, I assume my act..

> I'll stop bothering you now and let you simmer in your own hatred.

The only time I simmer is when I go into my SPA,and its whater inside, not
hate..  ;-)