Re: 60-806 help

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

btw...my use of "you" was generic...not necessarily you you.

--
**Crash Gordon**







"brihyn" <brihyn@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:61779ae1-7198-4f9f-aa24-f62c304c6916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> just to make a few things clear:
> 1) I have never been on a high horse. I came here with my tail between
> my legs asking for help.
> 2)I've noted numerous times that I do agree that randomly pushing
> buttons wasn't necessarily a smart thing to do. At the same time, I
> had nothing to lose, as the alarm was just as useless before as it is
> now.
> 3) I never mentioned the network engineer side until Crash told me
> that what I was just dumb as "trying to fix your pc on a friday
> night". I merely mentioned that I have no problems fixing my pc on a
> friday night myself.
> 4) as for my experience with alarms...Just mentioning that I am not a
> run of a mill home owner. I *do* have experience on some level with
> alarms. In fact, I would rightly argue that I have more knowledge of
> how an alarm board works than 99% of installers because of this
> experience having to fix and repair them. Does that help me in this
> case? Unfortunately, not a bit. But it *is* a fact that I've worked on
> a level on these circuit boards that few here have. (if only it DID
> help resolve my mistake!)
> 5) Can you argue that a lot of installers really do know what they're
> doing and more importantly, why? An installer that truly understands
> the "why" of security beyond just the "how" of installing is worth his
> weight in gold. No argument.. But I found in hiring installers on the
> corporate side that frankly, my sales guy knew a lot more of how to
> actually keep a building safe then the installers. They knew how to
> run the wiring, etc, but failed the most critical piece...looking at
> the buiilding from the point of view of a thief, and alter their work
> accordingly. They were just doing what they were trained, and nothing
> beyond. Are all installers that way? thankfully no. Maybe "trained
> monkey" came off wrong, but it's the case in any career path. a
> trained monkey can do what they were trained, and can't look beyond.
> Installers can be that way, network engineers can be that way. And
> unfortunately, i've run into too many of both. (note, i refuse to use
> the annoying phrase here of "looking outside of the box". Maybe that
> wouldn't have ruffled the feathers quite so badly, but I just hate
> that phrase)
> 6)Do I respect someone to crawl into crawlspaces? more than I can
> express here. I had a stint of doing side-contracting of running
> network cabling. Great pay, and I'd do it again, but words can not
> express how much I hated the work.
> Again, thanks for the constructive answers. And I realize my original
> reply created the stir. It was meant directly at Crash. Re-read the
> thread again from the top. I simply asked how to fix my screw up,
> Frank gave me a great reply that what I did was worse than I had
> thought, and than Crash responded with the most snarky reply of all.