Re: Why?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The HVAC guys do it that way for thermostats, I find it kinks up
though...took kinky for me.


"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| One tech I know coils it...it has a spring action to it... :)
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| Either way works for me.
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| Jim Rojas
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| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >I only called it a loop for lack of a better work...but yes...accordian
| > yeah thats it.
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| > "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | >I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of
| > wire
| > | > long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the
hole.
| > The
| > | > door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out
| > (including
| > my
| > | > service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the
| > hole
| > | > maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
| > | >
| > | > I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last
few
| > | > rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the
community..royalty
| > | > free
| > | > :-)
| > | >
| > |
| > | I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the
| > service
| > | "loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it out.  I
| > also
| > | give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for aluminum
and
| > | plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.  They
| > still
| > | wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact goes
| > in.
| > | Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL
| > |
| > | I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.
| > A
| > | loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian
bend
| > | always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian
| > bend
| > | does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and
windows
| > so
| > | I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.
| > |
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| > | > "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | > | > It would never work though
| > | > | >
| > | > | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a
3/8
| > | > drill
| > | > | > bit
| > | > | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the
door
| > | > | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes
for
| > | > us -
| > | > | > keep
| > | > | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a
dull
| > | > | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a
few
| > | > inches
| > | > | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then
| > install
| > a
| > | > 3/4
| > | > | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and
| > turning
| > | > to
| > | > | > mush around the bit.
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a
| > hollow
| > | > | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time
| > when
| > | > | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it
| > loose
| > | > | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
| > | > different
| > | > | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do
| > not
| > | > | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys
to
| > go
| > | > back
| > | > | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
| > | > generals
| > | > | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk
| > than
| > | > | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work
unprofitable
| > I
| > am
| > | > | clear I just won't work for them.
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