Re: Why?

["Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

One tech I know coils it...it has a spring action to it... :)

Either way works for me.

Jim Rojas


"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I only called it a loop for lack of a better work...but yes...accordian
> yeah thats it.
>
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> "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | >I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of
> wire
> | > long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the hole.
> The
> | > door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out
> (including
> my
> | > service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the
> hole
> | > maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
> | >
> | > I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last few
> | > rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the community..royalty
> | > free
> | > :-)
> | >
> |
> | I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the
> service
> | "loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it out.  I
> also
> | give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for aluminum and
> | plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.  They
> still
> | wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact goes
> in.
> | Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL
> |
> | I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.
> A
> | loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian bend
> | always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian
> bend
> | does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and windows
> so
> | I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.
> |
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> | >
> | > "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > | > It would never work though
> | > | >
> | > | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a 3/8
> | > drill
> | > | > bit
> | > | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the door
> | > | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes for
> | > us -
> | > | > keep
> | > | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a dull
> | > | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
> | > | >
> | > | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a few
> | > inches
> | > | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then
> install
> a
> | > 3/4
> | > | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and
> turning
> | > to
> | > | > mush around the bit.
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a
> hollow
> | > | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time
> when
> | > | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it
> loose
> | > | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
> | > different
> | > | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do
> not
> | > | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys to
> go
> | > back
> | > | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
> | > generals
> | > | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk
> than
> | > | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work unprofitable
> I
> am
> | > | clear I just won't work for them.
> | > |
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