Re: Why?

["Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx>]

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of wire
> long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the hole. The
> door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out (including my
> service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the hole
> maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
>
> I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last few
> rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the community..royalty
> free
> :-)
>

I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the service
"loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it out.  I also
give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for aluminum and
plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.  They still
wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact goes in.
Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL

I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.  A
loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian bend
always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian bend
does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and windows so
I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.


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> "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> | > It would never work though
> | >
> | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a 3/8
> drill
> | > bit
> | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the door
> | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes for
> us -
> | > keep
> | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a dull
> | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
> | >
> | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a few
> inches
> | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then install a
> 3/4
> | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and turning
> to
> | > mush around the bit.
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
> | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a hollow
> | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time when
> | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it loose
> | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
> different
> | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do not
> | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys to go
> back
> | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
> generals
> | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk than
> | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work unprofitable I am
> | clear I just won't work for them.
> |
> |
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