Re: Why?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I only called it a loop for lack of a better work...but yes...accordian
yeah thats it.


"Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of
wire
| > long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the hole.
The
| > door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out (including
my
| > service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the
hole
| > maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
| >
| > I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last few
| > rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the community..royalty
| > free
| > :-)
| >
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| I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the
service
| "loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it out.  I also
| give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for aluminum and
| plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.  They
still
| wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact goes in.
| Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL
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| I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.  A
| loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian bend
| always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian
bend
| does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and windows
so
| I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.
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| > "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > | > It would never work though
| > | >
| > | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a 3/8
| > drill
| > | > bit
| > | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the door
| > | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes for
| > us -
| > | > keep
| > | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a dull
| > | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
| > | >
| > | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a few
| > inches
| > | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then install
a
| > 3/4
| > | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and
turning
| > to
| > | > mush around the bit.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a
hollow
| > | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time
when
| > | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it
loose
| > | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
| > different
| > | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do not
| > | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys to
go
| > back
| > | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
| > generals
| > | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk
than
| > | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work unprofitable I
am
| > | clear I just won't work for them.
| > |
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