Re: Why?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yah but that only works if you know they're gonna foam. Sheet the attic of
this house was like a foam "cave"...they did the upside of the roof and the
normal ceiling so it was like crawling through a cave...wierd..but at least
there was NO dust!

"Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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|I have used a piece of 1/2" PVC pipe to protect the wire from the spray
foam
| robots...This allowed for a nice service loop and there was no fighting to
| get it back in. This works great on door headers, windows.
|
| Jim Rojas
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| "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| > "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >>I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of
wire
| >> long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the hole.
| >> The
| >> door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out (including
| >> my
| >> service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the
hole
| >> maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
| >>
| >> I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last few
| >> rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the community..royalty
| >> free
| >> :-)
| >>
| >
| > I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the
| > service "loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it
out.
| > I also give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for
aluminum
| > and plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.
They
| > still wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact
| > goes in. Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL
| >
| > I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.
A
| > loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian bend
| > always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian
| > bend does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and
| > windows so I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.
| >
| >
| > --
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| >> "Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >> | "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| >> | > It would never work though
| >> | >
| >> | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a 3/8
| >> drill
| >> | > bit
| >> | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the door
| >> | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes for
| >> us -
| >> | > keep
| >> | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a dull
| >> | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
| >> | >
| >> | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a few
| >> inches
| >> | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then install
a
| >> 3/4
| >> | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and
turning
| >> to
| >> | > mush around the bit.
| >> | >
| >> | >
| >> |
| >> |
| >> | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a
hollow
| >> | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time
when
| >> | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it
| >> loose
| >> | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
| >> different
| >> | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do not
| >> | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys to
go
| >> back
| >> | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
| >> generals
| >> | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk
than
| >> | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work unprofitable I
| >> am
| >> | clear I just won't work for them.
| >> |
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