Re: Why?

["Jim Rojas" <jrojas@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I have used a piece of 1/2" PVC pipe to protect the wire from the spray foam
robots...This allowed for a nice service loop and there was no fighting to
get it back in. This works great on door headers, windows.

Jim Rojas



"Bob La Londe" <nospam@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>I always leave a 1-2' service loop above the header, then a bundle of wire
>> long enough to reach any location on the door hanging out of the hole.
>> The
>> door installers feel it is their "job" to pull ALL slack out (including
>> my
>> service loop) and then cut the wire just long enough to hang out the hole
>> maybe 2 inches...just a tease. Forceps anyone?
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>> I have a new double secret procedure we are trying out on the last few
>> rough-ins, if it works I will release it to the the community..royalty
>> free
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> I do go and talk to these guys whenever possible explaining that the
> service "loop" is there for a reason and that they should not pull it out.
> I also give away lots of drill bits.  I give them step points for aluminum
> and plastic frames and brad points for wood frames.  It has helped.  They
> still wallow out the hole a little bit on some, but atleast the contact
> goes in. Just has to be wedged and caulked to stay in.  LOL
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> I don't use a service "loop" though.  I use an accordian bend instead.  A
> loop often tangles and knots when you pull it out, but an accordian bend
> always pulls straight out with little effort.  Of course the accordian
> bend does not work with stranded wire.  I also use quad for doors and
> windows so I always have a spare pair if something goes wrong.
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>> | > It would never work though
>> | >
>> | > We're never there when the door guys screw us. I used to buy a 3/8
>> drill
>> | > bit
>> | > and tie it to the front door contact wire with a note for the door
>> | > installers...please use the brand new drill bit to drill holes for
>> us -
>> | > keep
>> | > the bit when your done. We'd still find holes drilled with a dull
>> | > screwdriver tip. Idiots.
>> | >
>> | > I ended up drill a parallel 3/4" hole with a Forstner bit up a few
>> inches
>> | > then carefully angling towards the wire, fish it over, then install a
>> 3/4
>> | > incher. What a pain though! The foam shit kept heating up and turning
>> to
>> | > mush around the bit.
>> | >
>> | >
>> |
>> |
>> | I leave 4-5 accordion bends of wire above the header or if its a hollow
>> | header I leave a lot of slack inside the header.  MOST of the time when
>> | something strange happens I can pull down on the wire and break it
>> loose
>> | from the foam.  Of course when the door guys drill the jamb in a
>> different
>> | place than my hle through the header all bets are off.  I also do not
>> | hesitate to pop the casing off and leave it for their finish guys to go
>> back
>> | and fix when they do somethign stupid.  I only work with a couple
>> generals
>> | on new housing construction, and I make it clear I do better wortk than
>> | others doing htis sort of thing.  If they make my work unprofitable I
>> am
>> | clear I just won't work for them.
>> |
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