Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't use Visonic because I don't like the gear as much as other gear I
use. The actions of government where it comes from doesn't matter to me. I
take little notice of their actions. I feel that the Israeli government can
get along fine without my approval (or disapproval.) I thought you could
identify with a group of folks that have to struggle everyday to maintain
there own way of life. Of all people I thought you'd be more understanding.

"Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Come on Roland!
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> I don't have anything against Israel product but the one made by there
> govt....
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> I use Visonic stuff and already knew where it was coming from
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> "Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>>> Also Visonic = Israel
>> You had to say it. Now Petem is going to want to come and post something
>> to blame it, bash it, or kill it.
>> Okay, now that you stirred him up throw Nice=Israel in there too.
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>> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> >Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>>>> >towards US companies.
>>>> DSC=Canada
>>>> Bosch= German
>>>> Samsung=Korean
>>>> Geovision=Taiwan
>>>> Genetec=Canada
>>>> Hochiki=Japan
>>>> GE, Honeywell=International
>>>> DMP=USA And just who uses that product that posts here? I bet DMP
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> say that there is an "entrenched bias towards US companies", and their
>>>> market share proves it.
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>>> Also Visonic = Israel
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>>> There is no US bias, it's just a matter of distribution which Honeywell
>>> and
>>> GE have and Paradox does not (in the US).
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>>>> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> As you know, I've been a big fan of Paradox equipment from day one, and
>>>> use the 1759MG with the 1641 high end LCD keypad as my "standard"
>>>> installation. By and large, my feelings still stand, although lately I
>>>> have become a little disillusioned with their wireless products.
>>>>
>>>> They enroll easily, and are very reliable, but when batteries
>>>> inevitably go bad, there are problems. If the batteries in a wireless
>>>> motion go low, besides sending to the station, the LED will blink to
>>>> indicate which one needs the batteries changed. However, with the
>>>> smaller door contact, you have no such indicator. The event log will
>>>> show you (sort of) which device is low, but the only way to be sure is
>>>> to change all the wireless contact batteries (DL 2450 lithium at $3 a
>>>> pop). When I took this complaint to their tech support (superb by the
>>>> way), I was told there was no room in the chip for that indication - it
>>>> was full !! Also, you may have to power the panel down and up again in
>>>> order to clear the "RF trouble". But they are still far superior to
>>>> DSC's wireless product line (IMO)
>>>>
>>>> I don't use the all-in-one Magellan because of the inherent flaw with
>>>> the dialer integral with the keypad. Also, again in my opinion, these
>>>> all in one devices are designed to fit a niche, but are not suitable
>>>> for whole house security - especially when hardwired panels are so good
>>>> and so inexpensive. I have come upon houses that are TOTALLY drywalled,
>>>> and where this type of panel is pretty much the only kind it is
>>>> possible to install, but I always pass on that business. If I was going
>>>> to do them, I would use the GE model, with the dialer separate and in
>>>> the basement. I'm getting pretty fussy these days on the jobs I take.
>>>> At this point in my business, I'm virtually working for Revenue Canada
>>>> anyway, so screw it !! RMR is huge now with over 1000 accounts, and
>>>> it's hard to have enough write offs at year end to bring the taxable
>>>> income down to manageable levels.
>>>>
>>>> The only other minor problem I've had is with one or two DG75's going
>>>> bad and causing false alarms that cost me money. But that's to be
>>>> expected with literally 1000's in service I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>>>> towards US companies. However, they are huge world wide in over 41
>>>> other countries spread all over the globe. Such is life !!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers !
>>>>
>>>> R.H.Campbell
>>>> Home Security Metal Products
>>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>>> www.homemetal.com
>>>>
>>>> Robert L Bass wrote:
>>>> > > I guess Paradox is big up there north
>>>> > > of the ditch. No one seems to use it around here, although a least
>>>> > > one
>>>> > > parts
>>>> > > house here says they sell it (or would
>>>> > > sell it)...
>>>> >
>>>> > I sell Paradox every day.  I've also used some of their detectors
>>> (mainly
>>>> > the DG75) myself.  They work reliably and they're
>>>> > relatively inexpensive.  For more difficult locations (for example,
>>>> > multiple pets) I like the Visonic K-980D.  I have not used their
>>>> > controls though the Magellan series has become quite popular in some
>>> areas
>>>> > of the US.  One of my clients in Rhode Island has bought
>>>> > several of them.  He installed one in his own house and is not
>>>> > selling
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>>>> > them to his own customers.  He's just getting his feet wet in
>>>> > the trade.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards,
>>>> > Robert L Bass
>>>> >
>>>> > =============================>
>>>> > Bass Home Electronics
>>>> > 941-866-1100
>>>> > 4883 Fallcrest Circle
>>>> > Sarasota · Florida · 34233
>>>> > http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
>>>> > =============================>
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