Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

>tell clients that Paradox is junk

I guess Paradox is big up there north of the ditch. No one seems to use it
around here, although a least one parts house here says they sell it (or
would sell it). Since it doesn't have CP-01 sticker (according to my limited
information) it doesn't look like I'll ever find out for myself one way or
the other.

"tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Sir, I'm having a little difficulty understanding from your description
> exactly how the motion is placed relative to the couch. These motions
> should be mounted 7.5 to 9 feet above the floor level. As well, if I
> remember correctly, there may be an internal setting that the board has
> to be at in order to allow the PIR part of the unit to "see" at the
> correct angle. Check the board to make sure it's adjusted for the
> correct mounting height of the unit. If the unit is mounted at up at
> the correct height on the wall, then 4and a half feet is probably too
> close, and six feet only marginal.
>
> Again, without being there to see it, I can only guess to some degree.
> Whatever you do, make sure the PIR part is masked so the unit doesn't
> "see" down....it only looks in the distance so it looks OVER the top of
> the couch.
>
> Try this hoaky little trick. It's not exact, but might give you some
> indication of the sensitivity of the location. Kneel on the couch and
> move your head from side to side along the top of the couch, as if your
> head was actually the cat moving along the top of the couch. Does the
> motion trip ? If so, you've likely confirmed that this is the problem
> (although your body weight might still be fooling the device) The Bosch
> is a good motion detector; it's quite likely the problem is still
> placement relative to the couch.
>
> BTW, its not likely that ADT would consider buying Paradox equipment.
> Some years ago, the story goes they tried to purchase the company and
> the owner wouldn't sell. Since then, ADT( in our area anyway) tell
> clients that Paradox is junk !!
>
> Hehehe....don't yah just love "institutionalized corporate stupidity".
>
> R.H.Campbell
> Home Security Metal Products
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> www.homemetal.com
>
>
>
> aworkinprogress2112@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Happy Holidays all!
>>
>> Thanks to Crash Gordon, Tourman and Frank Olson for your assistance.
>> I've been checking your responses from time to time over the past few
>> days and now that the big holiday is behind me I'm going to put some
>> time into trying to get this resolved.
>>
>> Here's the deal: The motions are Bosch DS835i Microwave Intrusion
>> Detector with Pet Immunity.  In the room I've had two false alarms from
>> the closest thing to the motion is a couch.  The back of the couch is
>> just 4 1/2 feet from the motion and at the height of the couch, about 3
>> feet from the floor.  In the room I have had one false alarm from the
>> closest thing to the motionis again a couch.  This time the back of the
>> couch is 6 feet from the motion and again 3 feet from the floor.
>>
>> I guess my questions at this point are:
>>
>> 1) Are these distances of 4 1/2 feet and 6 feet too close to warrant
>> trying a less sensitive motion such as those mentioned by Tourman or by
>> Frank Olson?
>>
>> 2) Does this system have the "double trip feature" Tourman recommended
>> or the "cross-zoning" Crash Gordon mentioned?  My Google research tells
>> me this Safewatch Pro 3000 is really an Ademco Vista 20P in disguise.
>> The double-trip idea sounds like it might reduce false alarms and may
>> be effective when the house is empty but that it might run the risk of
>> missing someone coming in during the night and heading straight up to
>> my bedroom having only tripped the motion once.  I like the idea of the
>> cross-zoning and would be willing to pay to have two additional motions
>> installed, one to work with each of the two 1st floor motions.
>>
>> When I say willing to pay I don't want to sound like someone looking to
>> get something for nothing.  I specifically brought up my concerns about
>> the two cats at the time of installation and the furniture is in the
>> exact same place it was when the system was installed.  I was assured
>> that the placement and the type of motion detector would prevent false
>> alarms so I tend to think they are partly to blame for the situation.
>> I have no complaints about ADT yet, other than the current situation,
>> they have been very accomodating.  I guess their resolving - or not
>> resolving this problem will be the true test.
>>
>> Thanks again for your assistance and I look forward to more of it!
>>
>> Take care.
>