Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sir, I'm having a little difficulty understanding from your description
exactly how the motion is placed relative to the couch. These motions
should be mounted 7.5 to 9 feet above the floor level. As well, if I
remember correctly, there may be an internal setting that the board has
to be at in order to allow the PIR part of the unit to "see" at the
correct angle. Check the board to make sure it's adjusted for the
correct mounting height of the unit. If the unit is mounted at up at
the correct height on the wall, then 4and a half feet is probably too
close, and six feet only marginal.

Again, without being there to see it, I can only guess to some degree.
Whatever you do, make sure the PIR part is masked so the unit doesn't
"see" down....it only looks in the distance so it looks OVER the top of
the couch.

Try this hoaky little trick. It's not exact, but might give you some
indication of the sensitivity of the location. Kneel on the couch and
move your head from side to side along the top of the couch, as if your
head was actually the cat moving along the top of the couch. Does the
motion trip ? If so, you've likely confirmed that this is the problem
(although your body weight might still be fooling the device) The Bosch
is a good motion detector; it's quite likely the problem is still
placement relative to the couch.

BTW, its not likely that ADT would consider buying Paradox equipment.
Some years ago, the story goes they tried to purchase the company and
the owner wouldn't sell. Since then, ADT( in our area anyway) tell
clients that Paradox is junk !!

Hehehe....don't yah just love "institutionalized corporate stupidity".

R.H.Campbell
Home Security Metal Products
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
www.homemetal.com



aworkinprogress2112@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Happy Holidays all!
>
> Thanks to Crash Gordon, Tourman and Frank Olson for your assistance.
> I've been checking your responses from time to time over the past few
> days and now that the big holiday is behind me I'm going to put some
> time into trying to get this resolved.
>
> Here's the deal: The motions are Bosch DS835i Microwave Intrusion
> Detector with Pet Immunity.  In the room I've had two false alarms from
> the closest thing to the motion is a couch.  The back of the couch is
> just 4 1/2 feet from the motion and at the height of the couch, about 3
> feet from the floor.  In the room I have had one false alarm from the
> closest thing to the motionis again a couch.  This time the back of the
> couch is 6 feet from the motion and again 3 feet from the floor.
>
> I guess my questions at this point are:
>
> 1) Are these distances of 4 1/2 feet and 6 feet too close to warrant
> trying a less sensitive motion such as those mentioned by Tourman or by
> Frank Olson?
>
> 2) Does this system have the "double trip feature" Tourman recommended
> or the "cross-zoning" Crash Gordon mentioned?  My Google research tells
> me this Safewatch Pro 3000 is really an Ademco Vista 20P in disguise.
> The double-trip idea sounds like it might reduce false alarms and may
> be effective when the house is empty but that it might run the risk of
> missing someone coming in during the night and heading straight up to
> my bedroom having only tripped the motion once.  I like the idea of the
> cross-zoning and would be willing to pay to have two additional motions
> installed, one to work with each of the two 1st floor motions.
>
> When I say willing to pay I don't want to sound like someone looking to
> get something for nothing.  I specifically brought up my concerns about
> the two cats at the time of installation and the furniture is in the
> exact same place it was when the system was installed.  I was assured
> that the placement and the type of motion detector would prevent false
> alarms so I tend to think they are partly to blame for the situation.
> I have no complaints about ADT yet, other than the current situation,
> they have been very accomodating.  I guess their resolving - or not
> resolving this problem will be the true test.
>
> Thanks again for your assistance and I look forward to more of it!
>
> Take care.