Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
> >towards US companies.
> DSC=Canada
> Bosch= German
> Samsung=Korean
> Geovision=Taiwan
> Genetec=Canada
> Hochiki=Japan
> GE, Honeywell=International
> DMP=USA And just who uses that product that posts here? I bet DMP wouldn't
> say that there is an "entrenched bias towards US companies", and their
> market share proves it.

Also Visonic = Israel

There is no US bias, it's just a matter of distribution which Honeywell and
GE have and Paradox does not (in the US).






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> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> As you know, I've been a big fan of Paradox equipment from day one, and
> use the 1759MG with the 1641 high end LCD keypad as my "standard"
> installation. By and large, my feelings still stand, although lately I
> have become a little disillusioned with their wireless products.
>
> They enroll easily, and are very reliable, but when batteries
> inevitably go bad, there are problems. If the batteries in a wireless
> motion go low, besides sending to the station, the LED will blink to
> indicate which one needs the batteries changed. However, with the
> smaller door contact, you have no such indicator. The event log will
> show you (sort of) which device is low, but the only way to be sure is
> to change all the wireless contact batteries (DL 2450 lithium at $3 a
> pop). When I took this complaint to their tech support (superb by the
> way), I was told there was no room in the chip for that indication - it
> was full !! Also, you may have to power the panel down and up again in
> order to clear the "RF trouble". But they are still far superior to
> DSC's wireless product line (IMO)
>
> I don't use the all-in-one Magellan because of the inherent flaw with
> the dialer integral with the keypad. Also, again in my opinion, these
> all in one devices are designed to fit a niche, but are not suitable
> for whole house security - especially when hardwired panels are so good
> and so inexpensive. I have come upon houses that are TOTALLY drywalled,
> and where this type of panel is pretty much the only kind it is
> possible to install, but I always pass on that business. If I was going
> to do them, I would use the GE model, with the dialer separate and in
> the basement. I'm getting pretty fussy these days on the jobs I take.
> At this point in my business, I'm virtually working for Revenue Canada
> anyway, so screw it !! RMR is huge now with over 1000 accounts, and
> it's hard to have enough write offs at year end to bring the taxable
> income down to manageable levels.
>
> The only other minor problem I've had is with one or two DG75's going
> bad and causing false alarms that cost me money. But that's to be
> expected with literally 1000's in service I guess.
>
> Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
> towards US companies. However, they are huge world wide in over 41
> other countries spread all over the globe. Such is life !!
>
> Cheers !
>
> R.H.Campbell
> Home Security Metal Products
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> www.homemetal.com
>
> Robert L Bass wrote:
> > > I guess Paradox is big up there north
> > > of the ditch. No one seems to use it around here, although a least one
> > > parts
> > > house here says they sell it (or would
> > > sell it)...
> >
> > I sell Paradox every day.  I've also used some of their detectors
(mainly
> > the DG75) myself.  They work reliably and they're
> > relatively inexpensive.  For more difficult locations (for example,
> > multiple pets) I like the Visonic K-980D.  I have not used their
> > controls though the Magellan series has become quite popular in some
areas
> > of the US.  One of my clients in Rhode Island has bought
> > several of them.  He installed one in his own house and is not selling

> > them to his own customers.  He's just getting his feet wet in
> > the trade.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> > Robert L Bass
> >
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