Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Also Visonic = Israel
You had to say it. Now Petem is going to want to come and post something to
blame it, bash it, or kill it.
Okay, now that you stirred him up throw Nice=Israel in there too.

"Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> >Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>> >towards US companies.
>> DSC=Canada
>> Bosch= German
>> Samsung=Korean
>> Geovision=Taiwan
>> Genetec=Canada
>> Hochiki=Japan
>> GE, Honeywell=International
>> DMP=USA And just who uses that product that posts here? I bet DMP
>> wouldn't
>> say that there is an "entrenched bias towards US companies", and their
>> market share proves it.
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> Also Visonic = Israel
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> There is no US bias, it's just a matter of distribution which Honeywell
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> GE have and Paradox does not (in the US).
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>> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> As you know, I've been a big fan of Paradox equipment from day one, and
>> use the 1759MG with the 1641 high end LCD keypad as my "standard"
>> installation. By and large, my feelings still stand, although lately I
>> have become a little disillusioned with their wireless products.
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>> They enroll easily, and are very reliable, but when batteries
>> inevitably go bad, there are problems. If the batteries in a wireless
>> motion go low, besides sending to the station, the LED will blink to
>> indicate which one needs the batteries changed. However, with the
>> smaller door contact, you have no such indicator. The event log will
>> show you (sort of) which device is low, but the only way to be sure is
>> to change all the wireless contact batteries (DL 2450 lithium at $3 a
>> pop). When I took this complaint to their tech support (superb by the
>> way), I was told there was no room in the chip for that indication - it
>> was full !! Also, you may have to power the panel down and up again in
>> order to clear the "RF trouble". But they are still far superior to
>> DSC's wireless product line (IMO)
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>> I don't use the all-in-one Magellan because of the inherent flaw with
>> the dialer integral with the keypad. Also, again in my opinion, these
>> all in one devices are designed to fit a niche, but are not suitable
>> for whole house security - especially when hardwired panels are so good
>> and so inexpensive. I have come upon houses that are TOTALLY drywalled,
>> and where this type of panel is pretty much the only kind it is
>> possible to install, but I always pass on that business. If I was going
>> to do them, I would use the GE model, with the dialer separate and in
>> the basement. I'm getting pretty fussy these days on the jobs I take.
>> At this point in my business, I'm virtually working for Revenue Canada
>> anyway, so screw it !! RMR is huge now with over 1000 accounts, and
>> it's hard to have enough write offs at year end to bring the taxable
>> income down to manageable levels.
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>> The only other minor problem I've had is with one or two DG75's going
>> bad and causing false alarms that cost me money. But that's to be
>> expected with literally 1000's in service I guess.
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>> Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>> towards US companies. However, they are huge world wide in over 41
>> other countries spread all over the globe. Such is life !!
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>> Cheers !
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>> R.H.Campbell
>> Home Security Metal Products
>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>> www.homemetal.com
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>> Robert L Bass wrote:
>> > > I guess Paradox is big up there north
>> > > of the ditch. No one seems to use it around here, although a least
>> > > one
>> > > parts
>> > > house here says they sell it (or would
>> > > sell it)...
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>> > I sell Paradox every day.  I've also used some of their detectors
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>> > the DG75) myself.  They work reliably and they're
>> > relatively inexpensive.  For more difficult locations (for example,
>> > multiple pets) I like the Visonic K-980D.  I have not used their
>> > controls though the Magellan series has become quite popular in some
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>> > of the US.  One of my clients in Rhode Island has bought
>> > several of them.  He installed one in his own house and is not selling
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>> > them to his own customers.  He's just getting his feet wet in
>> > the trade.
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>> > --
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>> > Regards,
>> > Robert L Bass
>> >
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