Re: Problem With ADT System - Need Advice

["Petem" <petem001@xxxxxxxxx>]

Come on Roland!

I don't have anything against Israel product but the one made by there
govt....

I use Visonic stuff and already knew where it was coming from


"Roland" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit dans le message de news:
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>> Also Visonic = Israel
> You had to say it. Now Petem is going to want to come and post something
> to blame it, bash it, or kill it.
> Okay, now that you stirred him up throw Nice=Israel in there too.
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> "Mark Leuck" <m..leuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Roland Moore" <roland@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> >Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>>> >towards US companies.
>>> DSC=Canada
>>> Bosch= German
>>> Samsung=Korean
>>> Geovision=Taiwan
>>> Genetec=Canada
>>> Hochiki=Japan
>>> GE, Honeywell=International
>>> DMP=USA And just who uses that product that posts here? I bet DMP
>>> wouldn't
>>> say that there is an "entrenched bias towards US companies", and their
>>> market share proves it.
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>> Also Visonic = Israel
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>> There is no US bias, it's just a matter of distribution which Honeywell
>> and
>> GE have and Paradox does not (in the US).
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>>> "tourman" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> As you know, I've been a big fan of Paradox equipment from day one, and
>>> use the 1759MG with the 1641 high end LCD keypad as my "standard"
>>> installation. By and large, my feelings still stand, although lately I
>>> have become a little disillusioned with their wireless products.
>>>
>>> They enroll easily, and are very reliable, but when batteries
>>> inevitably go bad, there are problems. If the batteries in a wireless
>>> motion go low, besides sending to the station, the LED will blink to
>>> indicate which one needs the batteries changed. However, with the
>>> smaller door contact, you have no such indicator. The event log will
>>> show you (sort of) which device is low, but the only way to be sure is
>>> to change all the wireless contact batteries (DL 2450 lithium at $3 a
>>> pop). When I took this complaint to their tech support (superb by the
>>> way), I was told there was no room in the chip for that indication - it
>>> was full !! Also, you may have to power the panel down and up again in
>>> order to clear the "RF trouble". But they are still far superior to
>>> DSC's wireless product line (IMO)
>>>
>>> I don't use the all-in-one Magellan because of the inherent flaw with
>>> the dialer integral with the keypad. Also, again in my opinion, these
>>> all in one devices are designed to fit a niche, but are not suitable
>>> for whole house security - especially when hardwired panels are so good
>>> and so inexpensive. I have come upon houses that are TOTALLY drywalled,
>>> and where this type of panel is pretty much the only kind it is
>>> possible to install, but I always pass on that business. If I was going
>>> to do them, I would use the GE model, with the dialer separate and in
>>> the basement. I'm getting pretty fussy these days on the jobs I take.
>>> At this point in my business, I'm virtually working for Revenue Canada
>>> anyway, so screw it !! RMR is huge now with over 1000 accounts, and
>>> it's hard to have enough write offs at year end to bring the taxable
>>> income down to manageable levels.
>>>
>>> The only other minor problem I've had is with one or two DG75's going
>>> bad and causing false alarms that cost me money. But that's to be
>>> expected with literally 1000's in service I guess.
>>>
>>> Paradox will likely never be big in the US because of entrenched bias
>>> towards US companies. However, they are huge world wide in over 41
>>> other countries spread all over the globe. Such is life !!
>>>
>>> Cheers !
>>>
>>> R.H.Campbell
>>> Home Security Metal Products
>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>> www.homemetal.com
>>>
>>> Robert L Bass wrote:
>>> > > I guess Paradox is big up there north
>>> > > of the ditch. No one seems to use it around here, although a least
>>> > > one
>>> > > parts
>>> > > house here says they sell it (or would
>>> > > sell it)...
>>> >
>>> > I sell Paradox every day.  I've also used some of their detectors
>> (mainly
>>> > the DG75) myself.  They work reliably and they're
>>> > relatively inexpensive.  For more difficult locations (for example,
>>> > multiple pets) I like the Visonic K-980D.  I have not used their
>>> > controls though the Magellan series has become quite popular in some
>> areas
>>> > of the US.  One of my clients in Rhode Island has bought
>>> > several of them.  He installed one in his own house and is not selling
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>>> > them to his own customers.  He's just getting his feet wet in
>>> > the trade.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Robert L Bass
>>> >
>>> > =============================>
>>> > Bass Home Electronics
>>> > 941-866-1100
>>> > 4883 Fallcrest Circle
>>> > Sarasota · Florida · 34233
>>> > http://www.bassburglaralarms.com
>>> > =============================>
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