Re: Opinions on alarms systems configured/monitored over IP network

[Pat Coghlan <info@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Do you know if the systems you mentioned (plus Lenel) have the following
capabilities:

- 4-state alarms (active, inactive, short, cut)
- ability to search database objects (alarm points, cardholders etc.)
for matching strings
- canned and customizable reports
- configurable user permissions (monitor only, configure objects)
- warm or hot standby server

-Pat

Aegis wrote:
> "Pat Coghlan" <info@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:DCe0e.24519$nK.941320@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>I'm surprised no one has mentioned (knows about) the Summit eNT product
>>from Edwards Security (http://www.edwards.ca).
>>
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>
> In your original post, you indicated you already knew about that product and
> asked for other product opinions.
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>>Of course, the website doesn't offer any useful information about the
>>Summit eNT product, I just discovered.
>>
>>This is an enterprise product, providing ONLY alarm
>>configuration/monitoring/reports and access control.
>>
>>As you indicated, most other companies really haven't focused on the
>>security side of things.
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>
> Very close to 100% of those companies would disagree with you.
>
> Just about every access system provides what you have decribed earlier:
> - receive active alarms
> - configure alarm inputs/relays/zones
> - administer cardholders
>
> AMAG, Hirsch, Casi-Rusco, Kantech, and even Northern have all of these
> abilities.
>
>
>>Jackcsg wrote:
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>>>"J. Sloud" <jsloud2001@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>>On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:54:04 -0500, "Jackcsg" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>wrote:
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>>>>>Few Enterprise solutions are
>>>>>listed for fire, and I'm not just talking monitoring it, that's a whole
>>>>>other issue, but the actual devices, installation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>A EST3 Synergy system would be one I'm familiar with.  Not only will
>>>>it do access/ fire/ ba/ cctv but it will also interface via Lontalk to
>>>>a host of other systems enabling true integration.
>>>>
>>>>Jack, what else out there will do the same?
>>>
>>>
>>>Well there's only a few. More and more of the big access boys are getting
>>>on
>>>board with things like BacNet, Modbus, Lontalk, and some deeper PLC
>>>Integration. Probably out of all the complete systems I've seen I'd have
>>>to
>>>say Andover Controls has some pretty decent stuff. Embedded servers are
>>>just
>>>starting to gain momentum, and the programmers are flooding the fields
>>>now
>>>with creativeness. The problem for most is, there are so many protocols
>>>out
>>>there, where do you focus? And who are/is your client. These technologies
>>>mostly get born, as you know, from Government dealings. I've been
>>>seriously
>>>focusing on these embedded servers because there are a few which cross
>>>with
>>>multiple protocols, and communications. I know Siemens uses products
>>>similar
>>>to Andover Controls, and more and more big clients are looking at the
>>>single
>>>package. But....it's not all in house...yet. Electricians are getting
>>>involved and finding a big niche.
>>>MDI for a while in the early 90's also focused a little attention at
>>>going
>>>down that road as well. As far as I know, MDI was the first Enterprise
>>>Platform to be UL listed for fire, where others followed only in the
>>>monitoring side of things.
>>>Johnson Controls and Honeywell are probably the most known, through name
>>>recognition, but again, neither are total in house solutions.
>>>AMAG now has a BacNet interface, and along with a DMP interface, so they
>>>are
>>>also a good consideration.
>>>I think Lenel and Radionic's also have an Integration Package. I don't
>>>know
>>>where Lenel is on the PLC side of things, but the two owners (founders)
>>>can
>>>right some serious code.
>>>That's only the security side of things....Turn to the PLC side of the
>>>world....there are hundreds of companies with OAS, PLC Integration and
>>>Automation. None of them have really focused on the security side of
>>>things,
>>>there's too much money in Industrial Systems.
>>>
>>>
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