Re: need unbiased advice about lynx system

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I tried to point out the shortcomings of the install but I could tell he
thought I was selling sour grapes because he didn't ask me to bid on it (I
sold him surround sound and plasma) - needless to say he spent 7 grand on
entertainment center and maybe 400 on security his house and family.


"R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eYGdnZ2dnZ1Plc3wnZ2dnRsKmt6dnZ2dRVn-zZ2dnZ0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ..........cynical mode "on"........................
>
> Yeah, the client loved it only because he didn't know any better. And he
> didn't know any better because his security dealer defaulted on his
> professional obligation to secure his client's home properly. And he
> "defaulted" on his obligation because our industry is full of the same
> kind of dealers, big and small, who put quick profits ahead of doing a
> proper, professional job.
>
> R.H.Campbell
> Home Security Metal Products
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
> www.homemetal.com
>
> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:AAMNe.44$fP6.5822@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>I was in a 3000 sq ft house a few months ago where someone put in a lynx.
>>It was by the rear kitchen sliding glass door (why? - because that was
>>where the easiest phone line was - no siezure of course)...3 door
>>transmiters and one pir...now that's protection huh!...the homeowner loved
>>it.
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>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:_ZKdnXUM1bNPCZreRVn-1g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> No, you're right, they definately do have a market. The Lynx is the same
>>> as the Envoy and the Magellan...designed for very small installations,
>>> trailers, apartments etc. The problem only occurs when people shoehorn
>>> them in to regular homes only because it is less time consuming, and /
>>> or allows them to install more of the "free system" type installations
>>> in a given time. I've removed more of the Lynx and Envoy systems than I
>>> can count and replaced them with a proper hardwired or hybrid system.
>>>
>>> I wasn't really "badmouthing" the equipment. Just a cynical comment on
>>> where they sometimes go in...
>>>
>>> RHC
>>>
>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:5rMNe.42$fP6.5681@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Welp I wasn't gonna bad mouth the lynx...personally I don't them...but
>>>> I guess they have their niche for a "certain" market...not mine.
>>>>
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>>>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:rdWdnavZKpKY8preRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Well, to be absolutely frank, if the gentleman decides to go with new
>>>>> equipment, I would hope he would throw that "squawk in a box" stuff in
>>>>> the garbage and go with a "real" proper hardwired system. But, hey,
>>>>> it's his money and his security, and since it's not properly monitored
>>>>> anyway, I don't suppose it really matters what he uses.
>>>>>
>>>>> ....cynical mode "off".......
>>>>>
>>>>> RHC
>>>>>
>>>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:alJNe.35$fP6.3563@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> actually...we don't know who installed it....the op only says he
>>>>>> called ADT...doesn't necessarily mean it's theirs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it's CERTAINLY worth a shot at doing it himself..nothing to
>>>>>> lose...but like Rory saids..if its gonna be a local I definitely add
>>>>>> a real siren to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9-SdnRBRcoR5xpreRVn-rg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Exactly right !!  The best thing for the client might be to simply
>>>>>>> have a local dealer replace the hardware with a newer and better
>>>>>>> panel for a few bucks, or do it yourself if you are capable.  Who
>>>>>>> knows, that local dealer might do it at cost simply to get a long
>>>>>>> term contract. Then box up the ADT stuff, tell them to come get it
>>>>>>> (if you can ever get hold of them), and press on. They likely won't
>>>>>>> send anyone out to collect old hardware that has little residual
>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alarm equipment designed for residential applications is so
>>>>>>> inexpensive today, it almost doesn't make much sense to try to keep
>>>>>>> old hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R.H.Campbell
>>>>>>> Home Security Metal Products
>>>>>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>>>>>> www.homemetal.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:19:41 GMT, "Stanley Barthfarkle"
>>>>>>>>> <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Buy a control panel and keypad(s), and replace it yourself for
>>>>>>>>>>about $100- program it to call your cell phone as a pager number.
>>>>>>>>>>Or pay someone else $200 to $300 to replace it for you, or pay a
>>>>>>>>>>local dealer $200-300 plus $15-20 per month for monitoring, or pay
>>>>>>>>>>a nat'l co $100 + $30/mo for 2-5 yrs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>BTW- since ADT almost certainly still owns the equipment, give
>>>>>>>>>>them a certified letter stating that they have 14 days to come
>>>>>>>>>>remove their equipment...if they don't, (they probably won't) it
>>>>>>>>>>belongs to you.
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