Re: need unbiased advice about lynx system

["R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah, that figures too. Security is low on their list of priorities (until
they get hit)

RHC

"Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I tried to point out the shortcomings of the install but I could tell he
>thought I was selling sour grapes because he didn't ask me to bid on it (I
>sold him surround sound and plasma) - needless to say he spent 7 grand on
>entertainment center and maybe 400 on security his house and family.
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> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eYGdnZ2dnZ1Plc3wnZ2dnRsKmt6dnZ2dRVn-zZ2dnZ0@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> ..........cynical mode "on"........................
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>> Yeah, the client loved it only because he didn't know any better. And he
>> didn't know any better because his security dealer defaulted on his
>> professional obligation to secure his client's home properly. And he
>> "defaulted" on his obligation because our industry is full of the same
>> kind of dealers, big and small, who put quick profits ahead of doing a
>> proper, professional job.
>>
>> R.H.Campbell
>> Home Security Metal Products
>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>> www.homemetal.com
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>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:AAMNe.44$fP6.5822@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I was in a 3000 sq ft house a few months ago where someone put in a lynx.
>>>It was by the rear kitchen sliding glass door (why? - because that was
>>>where the easiest phone line was - no siezure of course)...3 door
>>>transmiters and one pir...now that's protection huh!...the homeowner
>>>loved it.
>>>
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>>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:_ZKdnXUM1bNPCZreRVn-1g@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> No, you're right, they definately do have a market. The Lynx is the
>>>> same as the Envoy and the Magellan...designed for very small
>>>> installations, trailers, apartments etc. The problem only occurs when
>>>> people shoehorn them in to regular homes only because it is less time
>>>> consuming, and / or allows them to install more of the "free system"
>>>> type installations in a given time. I've removed more of the Lynx and
>>>> Envoy systems than I can count and replaced them with a proper
>>>> hardwired or hybrid system.
>>>>
>>>> I wasn't really "badmouthing" the equipment. Just a cynical comment on
>>>> where they sometimes go in...
>>>>
>>>> RHC
>>>>
>>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:5rMNe.42$fP6.5681@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Welp I wasn't gonna bad mouth the lynx...personally I don't them...but
>>>>> I guess they have their niche for a "certain" market...not mine.
>>>>>
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>>>>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:rdWdnavZKpKY8preRVn-pQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Well, to be absolutely frank, if the gentleman decides to go with new
>>>>>> equipment, I would hope he would throw that "squawk in a box" stuff
>>>>>> in the garbage and go with a "real" proper hardwired system. But,
>>>>>> hey, it's his money and his security, and since it's not properly
>>>>>> monitored anyway, I don't suppose it really matters what he uses.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ....cynical mode "off".......
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RHC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:alJNe.35$fP6.3563@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> actually...we don't know who installed it....the op only says he
>>>>>>> called ADT...doesn't necessarily mean it's theirs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it's CERTAINLY worth a shot at doing it himself..nothing to
>>>>>>> lose...but like Rory saids..if its gonna be a local I definitely add
>>>>>>> a real siren to it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "R.H.Campbell" <rh.campbell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:9-SdnRBRcoR5xpreRVn-rg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Exactly right !!  The best thing for the client might be to simply
>>>>>>>> have a local dealer replace the hardware with a newer and better
>>>>>>>> panel for a few bucks, or do it yourself if you are capable.  Who
>>>>>>>> knows, that local dealer might do it at cost simply to get a long
>>>>>>>> term contract. Then box up the ADT stuff, tell them to come get it
>>>>>>>> (if you can ever get hold of them), and press on. They likely won't
>>>>>>>> send anyone out to collect old hardware that has little residual
>>>>>>>> value.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alarm equipment designed for residential applications is so
>>>>>>>> inexpensive today, it almost doesn't make much sense to try to keep
>>>>>>>> old hardware.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> R.H.Campbell
>>>>>>>> Home Security Metal Products
>>>>>>>> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
>>>>>>>> www.homemetal.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >> On Fri, 19 Aug 2005 16:19:41 GMT, "Stanley Barthfarkle"
>>>>>>>>>> <sbarth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Buy a control panel and keypad(s), and replace it yourself for
>>>>>>>>>>>about $100- program it to call your cell phone as a pager number.
>>>>>>>>>>>Or pay someone else $200 to $300 to replace it for you, or pay a
>>>>>>>>>>>local dealer $200-300 plus $15-20 per month for monitoring, or
>>>>>>>>>>>pay a nat'l co $100 + $30/mo for 2-5 yrs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>BTW- since ADT almost certainly still owns the equipment, give
>>>>>>>>>>>them a certified letter stating that they have 14 days to come
>>>>>>>>>>>remove their equipment...if they don't, (they probably won't) it
>>>>>>>>>>>belongs to you.
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