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["Tom" <dantoXSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

"Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
>
> > "Dirk Bruere at Neopax" <dirk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> >
> >>Are memes 'real' or hypothetical?
> >
> > Do you think they must be one or the other or that these are the only
two
> > choices?
>
> Well, those are the two that you offered when I claimed it was more
complex that
> it seemed.

No, those are the two *you* offered.  I wasn't splitting those hairs.

That's a good effort, though.  You could easily have distracted someone with
that particular non sequitor.

> Changed your mind again?

Maybe you changed your mind about what you imagined I was saying.

> >>What happens if you piss of the wrong meme in the wrong place?
> >
> > You can't piss off a meme.  Nor are memes psychotic genocidal maniacs.
>
> Big complex memes look just like personalities.

To those whose thinking is muddled, anyway.

> > That's right.  They are only books.  Mein Kampf did not set up death
camps.
> > Das Kapital instituted no pogroms.  People did that.
>
> I wonder why? I suspect it was something to do with information that those
books
> hosted, and which infected the readers.

The *books* *made* them do *bad things*.  Blame the *books*!

"I'm sorry, your honor, but don't sentence *me* for that crime.  Sentence
*this book*!"  Once I read it, all my morals, ethics, and good sense were
violently and involuntarily torn from me.  I cannot be held responsible for
what *this book* did."

> > Censors like to think that books and thoughts are the enemy.  That's
silly.
>
> Nice to know there are no such things as enemies and that if there are,
they
> don't think.

Another fine bit of reasoning.  "If books and thoughts are not the enemy,
then there can be no possible enemy."  Wow.

> >>The only thing that really exists is information and pattern.
> >
> > Ah, now who's limiting the definition of existence?
>
> I'm limiting it to known science.

Is that a valid limit, do you think?  Do you think that only what science
deals with can be considered to exist, and anything that science doesn't
deal with doesn't exist?

> > So it seems when you're spending most of your time living in your head.
>
> That's the only place anyone ever is.

Heh.  So it seems when you're living in your head, anyway.