Re: Do You Want To Know For Sure That You Are Going To Heaven? The reason some people don't know for sure if they are going to Heaven when they die is because they just don't know. The good news is that you can know for sure that you are going to Heaven wh

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax <dirk@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Tom wrote:

> "Paul Burke" <paul@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>Robert L. Bass wrote:
>>
>>>>You know, I think it's good advice to avoid calling someone a psychotic
>>>>genocidal maniac where the aforesaid psychotic genocidal maniac can hear
>>>>you.  Especially if he *really is* a psychotic genocidal maniac.  You
>
> know
>
>>>>what I mean?
>>>
>>>
>>>Or.... just in case He really *is* God.  Either way you're probably
>>>irritating the wrong guy.  :^)
>>
>>Problem with Forth's bet (or was it Delphi's punt?) is that if you
>>believe in one of the gods, you aren't believing in all the others- when
>>gods are mutually exclusive, atheism becomes almost as good a bet as
>>theism. 9 postulated gods. The believer's chance of hell rises to 80%,
>>as against 90% for the atheist.
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>
> It seems to me that there is a difference between believing in a god and
> believing what a god tells you.
>
> The stories of YHWH tell us that he had a lot different options when it came
> to punishing people who offended him.  Sending people to hell is only one of
> the more recent ones.  There were the bears he sent to maul children who
> made fun of Elijah's bald head.  There were two cities, named Sodom and
> Gomorrah, that got nuked for bad behavior.  There was the guy who was simply
> struck dead for touching the Ark of the Covenant.  We could go on and on.
>
> If this god actually exists, it seems to me that one is taking unnecessary
> chances by baiting him.
>
> Of course, if he doesn't exist, there's no problem.  But then there's no
> point in denouncing an imaginary creature as a psychotic genocidal maniac.

There's that 'exists' again, as if it's all black and white.
Sure YHVH exists, just as other Gods exist and as Ouija entities exist.
And they are just as good or bad as you make them and as strong as their followers.

FFF
Dirk

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