Re: is x10.com dead?

["Dennis" <djr-google.djrlar@xxxxxxxx>]

Robert,

OK,OK, <GRIN,  Thanks for pointing out the fact that ZWAVE does have
good support in the HA software market.  I will definitely do some
research on it. My initial research, after seeing your response,
indicates ZWAVE uses the 'each module is also a repeater' approach that
Smart Home is using. I like that approach. I did find one aspect that
doesn't appear very appealing, namely the process used to remove
modules from a network.  It appears that you have to dump the entire
network definition and relearn each module all over again.  I don't
know what this actually means at this point, but it sounds like
something that needs improvement. Take a look at this message site:

www.automatedhome.co.uk/postp2918.html


Dennis
Robert L Bass wrote:
> > Robbert,
> >
> > There's one big problem with the x10 alternatives.
> > Most of the automation packages, such as HAL, do
> > not support them...
>
> HAL 2000 does support Z-Wave:
> http://www.automatedliving.com/products_interfaces.html
>
> HomeSeer supports Z-Wave:
> http://www.homeseer.com/products/hardware/specialty_hardware.htm
>
> ELK M1Gold supports Z-Wave:
> http://www.elkproducts.com/products/m1/M1XZW.htm
>
> Note the image in the above referenced URL.  It's a collage of
> Z-Wave Alliance member firms and it reads like a Who's Who of
> automation manufacturers.
>
>
> > If I understand the new Smart
> > Home system, it uses the X10 protocol but enhances
> > it by sending it over both the power line and RF
> > methods...
>
> I'd describe that as supplementing rather than enhancing the X10
> signal.  At first glance it appears to be a good idea.  They may
> sell lots of them.  However, past problems with all things 'Linc
> give me serious pause before accepting the product line.
>
> > This would appear to be a good solution to both the
> > reliability problems and the support issue...
>
> Reliability can be improved using multiple protocols.  However,
> if they keep making low quality like other 'Linc products, the
> problems will persist.
>
> > Have you, or anyone else, had any experience using
> > this system?
>
> I haven't invested in Insteon.  I might just buy a few products
> to test when I get back to the US in April, 2006.  I'm much more
> interested in Z-Wave.
>
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> Robert L Bass
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