Re: SooooOOOOOOOOOO ?

[ABLE1 <somewhere@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On 5/27/2021 8:36 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:11:21 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
>> On 5/26/2021 3:56 PM, RTS wrote:
>>> On 5/26/2021 12:17 PM, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>> On 5/26/2021 12:48 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 9:48:49 PM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/25/2021 6:45 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 9:17:40 AM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 5/24/2021 7:41 PM, Jim Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Les,
>>>>>>>>> I never looked into either the 2GIG or Alarm dot Com products or
>>>>>>>>> services. I don't have the feintest idea of what either of them
>>>>>>>>> do. At this stage of my life, It's probably my inherant rejection
>>>>>>>>> of having to learn how to program a new panel. Especially since
>>>>>>>>> I've been installing only Napco panels for over 40 years. I don't
>>>>>>>>> mind learning a new product like Ubiquity, or Starlink etc, - - -
>>>>>>>>> - - - - But a new panel ?
>>>>>>>>> I don't know why but - - - - Oooogie !
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>> Also, what method did you use to travel the 350 feet with the
>>>>>>>>> network?
>>>>>>>> As for 2GIG GC2e panel. It has a lot of capabilities. The
>>>>>>>> documentation for this panel sucks, as most do these days.
>>>>>>>> The system allows voice notices for a zone being opened.
>>>>>>>> Such as "Front Door Open". On of the zones on this new
>>>>>>>> install is "Interior Garage Door". You don't type in the names
>>>>>>>> you have to choose from a list that is provided in the docs.
>>>>>>>> There are maybe 286 different words and or phrases that are
>>>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>>> The unit has a touch screen and when you are at the location to
>>>>>>>> program
>>>>>>>> the zone names the first is shown as "abort" and you can type in the
>>>>>>>> word number to enter the first word. So I look at the list of
>>>>>>>> words and
>>>>>>>> go to the "G's" - the first G is "Game" it is number 100 on the list.
>>>>>>>> The next is "Garbage" it is number 101. Looking at the rest of the
>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>> there is no "Garage". I am thinking that's odd. So I find the the
>>>>>>>> docs say that it is for Firmware v1.31. I check the panel it is
>>>>>>>> v1.32.
>>>>>>>> hmmmmmmm so I look on line and the docs that I have is all that are
>>>>>>>> available. ??????? I then think maybe the panel has a Garage in place
>>>>>>>> but I don't know the number. So I start tapping the next key until I
>>>>>>>> reach the "G's". 100 is "Game" and 101 is "Garage" and there is
>>>>>>>> NO GARBAGE!!! Stupid TYPO!!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyhow, you have now been educated with Chapter 101a of 2GIG Security
>>>>>>>> Panels by Professor Les. Hope that made your day!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have a better day!!!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>> Lots of years ago, I think FBI had a talking panel and then there
>>>>>>> was (I think ) Apex. And if I'm not mistaken, Napco has one also.
>>>>>>> Doesn't the "Freedom" keypad have voice? I forgot.
>>>>>>> I thought the talking keypad was just a fabulous feature years ago.
>>>>>>> BUT, - - - - on the few I installed the customers all called me
>>>>>>> back and asked me to shut it off because it was too annoying to
>>>>>>> have to constantly hear "The sliding door is open", "The sliding
>>>>>>> door is open", "The sliding door is open", "The sliding door is
>>>>>>> open", - - - - as the kids went in and out to the pool.
>>>>>>> And on those panels the user didn't have access to turn off the voice
>>>>>>> I think there was a car that had a voice notification too. "A door
>>>>>>> is open" etc, etc while you were trying to talk to somo one. That
>>>>>>> lasted about one model and the next year it was gone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So again though. How did you get the network to the barn? Cable,?
>>>>>>> Ubiquity outdoor access point? Semaphore? Dixi cups and string?
>>>>>> Sorry Jim my bad!! Got distracted......................
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Originally I ran cable from the house to a tobacco barn to a Data
>>>>>> Switch
>>>>>> and then up a hill in conduit to a pole that I mounted a EnGenius
>>>>>> wireless bridge that sent the signal to another one on the barn that is
>>>>>> about 120' away. From that unit cabled 200' through the attic
>>>>>> of the barn to another switch and a EnGenius WiFi Point. That worked
>>>>>> fine until there was a lighting bolt and some parts went elsewhere.
>>>>>> Replaced the EnGenius with Ubiquity antennas. Again all seems to work
>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now they want to start streaming video from the barn. The speeds
>>>>>> can't handle it and it was decided to hardwire all the way to the
>>>>>> barn with Data Switches to boost the signal. Will be placing
>>>>>> Ubiquity Wireless Points. 1 ea. U6-LR and 3 ea. U6-Lite units
>>>>>> placed in the barn and stable areas to get coverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will be a Unifi Cloudkey installed to control all the points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cabling will be a pain!! But doable. All T&M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope all that makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> WOW!
>>>>> And all that just so the cows can watch Opra! and Dr. Pol.
>>>>> Amazing.
>>>>> Well, I guess there's something better about the milk from a
>>>>> satisfied cow.
>>>>>
>>>> Oh, I guess I forgot to mention that this is a
>>>> Horse Riding/Training Barn. No Cows on the property.
>>>>
>>>> Les
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> now come on Les, there's cows there, there just "on" the horses...
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> RTS
>>>
>> That's Funny!! But, comparing a cow to the good looking riders is
>> bit off key. I would have chosen another 4 footed animal to compare! :-)
>>
>> Actually there are Cows on the Amish Farm that is on the other side
>> of the road. Along with Horse Teams for pulling Plows and Buggies.
>> Ain't no technology as we know it, happening there!!
>>
>> Les
> Hey Les
>
> Maybe you could talk the Amish into buying some plastic cups and rolls of string for local communication and some megaphones for long distance.
>
> So have you ever heard this one?
> What is this
> clip-- - - - clop,     clip - - - clop,     clip - - - --clop,     clip-clop, clip-clop, , BANG, BANG, BANG, clippity-clop, clipity-clop, clippity-clop, clipity-clop
>
> It's an Amish drive by shooting.
>

Yes, that is a very oldie!!

I had a job to install a Fire Alarm in a renovated building that
was going to have 8 apartments. The building owner/contractor
was Amish.  The deal was 50% to start, 30% on delivery of equipment
and 20% on completion.  Did the pre-wire and when the place was
ready to start the install I got the equipment and delivered to
location and received a check for $2600.  Two days later I found
out that the check had bounced.  I was on my way to another job.
I turned around and when to the apartment site.  The place was
locked up, no one on site.  I got the outside key and went inside
and removed all the parts and placed in my van.  Then I called
the Amish guy on his cell phone.  I told him his check bounced
and if he wanted the job completed it would have to be cash or
a cashiers check before I would continue.  He said, "Well you
don't know how to work with the Amish!!"  I never told him that
I had removed the equipment and I never went back.  I informed
the local inspector I was off the job.  I used the equipment
on other jobs there after.

Les