Re: Firewolf 4-wire Napco 816 gives E41

[Frank Olson <Use-the-email-links@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Robert L Bass wrote:
>> Woah, there is certainly some hostility here, maybe I should just
>> slowly back away.
>
> Oh, yes, but it has nothing to do with you.  This goes back many years
> ago when I first started talking about DIY in this newsgroup.

Along with your "talk" of DIY you also frequently posted links to your
website in total violation of the Group's FAQ.  I guess you "missed"
telling the OP that.


> Some of
> the others got PO'd because they regard DIY as an intrusion into *their*
> newsgroup.

Nope.  DIYer's are more than welcome to post.  It's when you start
denigrating the trade (and the regulars in the Group) that sort of
swings the focus away from talking alarms.


> They actually thought they could vote to keep me from
> posting stuff they don't like.  There's a fundamental lack of
> understanding of Usenet, not to mention common decency, here.

Uh-huh...  Let's review one of the best responses to your frequent
forays down "your memory" lane I've ever read:

>> I would have expected no less from you Robert.
>
>
>> It is true this is an "alt" group, along with tens of thousands other
>> groups.  Being an "alt" group does not mean the group is open to the whim
>> of anyone whose whim warrants it.
>
>
>> You and I have had many conversations over the last couple of years and I
>> can understand where you are coming from.  I can also understand that you
>> are the prime reason for many of the problems.  You may not provoke it
>> intentionally but the utter hatred for you that many in the group have is
>> the reason I'm having to do this in the first place.
>
>
>> I've tried to be patient with you, I've tried to explain the way things
>> should/could work but your goals are always ahead of the group in
>> general.
>
>
>> Any newsgroup can take control of it's own destiny, there is no rule that
>> says all alt groups must be total chaos.  The "big 8" were created first,
>> then the .alt groups so there could be more laxx areas.  The "alt"
>> hierarchy wasn't formed with the intent that all groups in it be totally
>> out of control.  At the time the alt hierarchy was created, spam was not
>> a problem and most users of the newsgroups at all were people like myself
>> who had been involved in it for many years who exhibited some restraint
>> in our on-line activities on our own.
>
>
>> Read the FAQ Robert.  You've hidden behind it yourself, you have used it
>> to retaliate against those you felt should be "moderated" (do I have to
>> quote some of your emails to me asking for others to be moderated), yet
>> when it doesn't turn your way all of a sudden the whole concept is wrong.
>> I am not the "moderator" of the group, no one is.  There is no official
>> procedure for changing the FAQ of the group other than it is the
>> responsibility of the Group Host to maintain it as the FAQ states.
>
>
>> If you have suggestions for changes to the FAQ to be made, then by all
>> means stop criticizing everyone else and make some useful suggestions.
>> These are being run on a "trial" basis for one week as I stated.  If it
>> doesn't work out then we'll change them.  Or if someone has a better idea
>> before that, we can change it.  These aren't set in stone, they are my
>> suggestions for improving the group.
>
>
>> Grow up Robert and either participate nicely or go play somewhere else.
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>
>> --
>> --
>> Steven M. Ryckman, asa Group Host
>> Email: sryck...@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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