Re: Firewolf 4-wire Napco 816 gives E41

["Robert L Bass" <RobertLBass@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

> Woah, there is certainly some hostility here, maybe I should just
> slowly back away.

Oh, yes, but it has nothing to do with you.  This goes back many
years ago when I first started talking about DIY in this newsgroup.
Some of the others got PO'd because they regard DIY as an intrusion
into *their* newsgroup.  They actually thought they could vote to
keep me from posting stuff they don't like.  There's a fundamental
lack of understanding of Usenet, not to mention common decency, here.

> Anyhoo, yes I connected it to zone 3 because as the
> manual states I should be able to use any zone as a
> fire zone.  I will move it to 7 or 8 and check it there...

There is no need to move the 4-wire smokes to zone 7
or 8.  You were correct in the first place.  Any zone on
the P816 can handle 4-wire smokes.  Only 2-wire
smokes are limited to zones 7 or 8.

> I didn't think to close zone 7 or 8 with a resistor since
> they are open and unused/unprogrammed zones in
> area 1.

Bingo!  If you have not programmed unused zones out
of the system or shunted them with an appropriate resistor
you can get a fire trouble signal.  Just make sure both
jumpers are set to "BURG" and place 2.2K Ohm resistors
across the terminals.  The panel should be OK after you
power it up.  Yin and Yan will be in balance and the
universe will be at peace once again.

> I know, I know, y'all are gonna tell me that many
> "pro" guys close open zones with an EOL resistor
> while I just remove it from the programming, my bad.

Not at all.  Many professionals just program unused
zones out of the system.  You can do it iether way.
If you want the zone to be completely ignored, go
to the "Zone Feature View" screen in the Quickloadr
program by clicking the button that looks like a window
and door near the top left corner of the window.
In the row called "Zone Area 1" click the 7th and/or 8th
column and hit the space bar to toggle the "Y" to a dot.
Download the program and the system will no longer
see the affected zones.

> On that note, every "pro" installation I've ever seen
> places the EOL resistors inside the panel, so now
> we're even...!

You are correct of course.  Far more installers wrongly
place the EOL resistors inside the panel than those who
do it right.  This stuff isn't rocket science, is it?

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Regards,
Robert L Bass

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