Re: Strange Phone Line Issue

["ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well I just can't believe that would ever happen in today's world.

> Personally on my Vista problem I have a feeling Ademko packaged a
> proprietary panel as a normal one,  but won't own up to it.





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> "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:JqWdncdYsIAhyTnYnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | Basically I was so surprised by what I had discovered that I did not
> have
> | time to think out a troubleshooting procedure.  I will return and do
> some
> | serious data acquisition later so that the diagnoses can be made.
> |
> | That's a whole lot of BS to say:         "I'll check it later."
> |
> |
> |
> | > What's the voltage on the line?
> | >
> | > I've had problem with voltage drop on rural service.
> | >
> | > I even have a Vista 15 that even though the voltage is good it does
> the
> | > same
> | > thing you describe (fortunately he's a local) but I can't remote
> program
> | > and
> | > never did find out what the prob was...probably noise but I don't have
> | > tools
> | > to measure that.
> | >
> | >
> | > "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:SI2dnUdZd-vMoDnYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | >I thought the telco system sent the caller ID data between 1st and
> 2nd
> | > | >ring. Maybe that is what you heard?
> | > |
> | > | I have never heard the CID before on any other line as I did on this
> | > one.
> | > | It really sounds like a modem carrier for about 1 second.  I turned
> off
> | > the
> | > | CID on the line and tried again just to check and got the same
> result.
> | > | Although now that I think about it when I turned it off that was for
> | > | outgoing calls.
> | > |
> | > | I had a conversation with an associate earlier and he said that it
> maybe
> | > | possible that Verizon has another line crossed onto this line pair.
> He
> | > said
> | > | that he had seen it happen on another carrier a few years ago.  Need
> to
> | > | investigate this possibility further.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for the inputs so far.  Every little bit helps.
> | > |
> | > | Les
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | > "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | > news:spCdnasiuuNcuznYnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | >> Nick, thanks for the response.  But, please re-read my post
> | > especially
> | > | >> this paragraph.
> | > | >>
> | > | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc
> and
> | > with
> | > | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
> | > direct
> | > | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
> | > buzz
> | > | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
> | > heard
> | > | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
> | > Nothing
> | > | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
> | > | >>
> | > | >> I am still puzzled???
> | > | >>
> | > | >> TIA
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Les
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>> Do you have a RJ31x  ESSEX DSL filter
> | > | >>> I have found DSL screws with up load down load.tones
> | > | >>> and by having the rj block filter it stops it.
> | > | >>> Also did they add sattelite dish some times the cable and or
> dish
> | > box
> | > | >>> has a phone connection that will screw with phone line as well
> was
> | > this
> | > | >>> recently added.
> | > | >>> Worse comes to worse take all phones off gray brown telco wires
> and
> | > try
> | > | >>> download to see if problem is with in house wiring or comming in
> | > from
> | > | >>> pole .
> | > | >>> I have seen DSL cause all kinds of strange problems even when
> you
> | > think
> | > | >>> you have everything filtered and some one adds an exstension etc
> and
> | > | >>> does not do it right.
> | > | >>> DSC modems are very suseptable to dsl
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > | >>> news:9eGdnTRdTcwxgDnYnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | >>>> Had a strange occurrence today with a customers phone line that
> is
> | > | >>>> still un-resolved.  Thought I would share and see if anyone has
> any
> | > | >>>> hints as to what's going on.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Customer has one phone line.
> | > | >>>> Standard set up with RJ31X.
> | > | >>>> Phone line has DSL
> | > | >>>> DSL Filters installed.
> | > | >>>> System Communicates Signals to CS, all good
> | > | >>>> Normal phones in house with Answering Machine and CID Box
> | > | >>>> Previous connection for UpDownload OK.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Problem comes up when I try to connect to panel remotely.
> Panel
> | > will
> | > | >>>> hang and then disconnect.  Went to site today and used my
> laptop
> to
> | > | >>>> connect to the panel thru my "private phone company in a box"
> which
> | > | >>>> would be the same as connecting over the phone line.
> Connection
> is
> | > | >>>> good and data transferred as it should.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Connected my Butt Set to the phone line and dialed with my cell
> | > phone
> | > | >>>> to trigger the panel to answer, Answering Machine Bypass
> function
> | > | >>>> enabled. While listening to the amplified speaker I heard what
> | > sounded
> | > | >>>> like a modem answering with a carrier tone after the first
> ring.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc
> and
> | > with
> | > | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
> | > direct
> | > | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
> | > buzz
> | > | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
> | > heard
> | > | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
> | > Nothing
> | > | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> It is as if another modem or panel is on the line and
> connecting
> on
> | > the
> | > | >>>> first ring but not answering the call.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Has anyone experienced anything like this and/or what the
> blazes
> is
> | > it
> | > | >>>> or could it be?????????   I ran out of time to investigate it
> | > further
> | > | >>>> on site with voltages, current, etc. but it seems very strange.
> | > Any
> | > | >>>> thoughts from the masses would be welcome.
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Thanks,
> | > | >>>>
> | > | >>>> Les
> | > | >>>>
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