Re: Strange Phone Line Issue

["ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Basically I was so surprised by what I had discovered that I did not have
time to think out a troubleshooting procedure.  I will return and do some
serious data acquisition later so that the diagnoses can be made.

That's a whole lot of BS to say:         "I'll check it later."



> What's the voltage on the line?
>
> I've had problem with voltage drop on rural service.
>
> I even have a Vista 15 that even though the voltage is good it does the
> same
> thing you describe (fortunately he's a local) but I can't remote program
> and
> never did find out what the prob was...probably noise but I don't have
> tools
> to measure that.
>
>
> "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:SI2dnUdZd-vMoDnYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >I thought the telco system sent the caller ID data between 1st and 2nd
> | >ring. Maybe that is what you heard?
> |
> | I have never heard the CID before on any other line as I did on this
> one.
> | It really sounds like a modem carrier for about 1 second.  I turned off
> the
> | CID on the line and tried again just to check and got the same result.
> | Although now that I think about it when I turned it off that was for
> | outgoing calls.
> |
> | I had a conversation with an associate earlier and he said that it maybe
> | possible that Verizon has another line crossed onto this line pair.  He
> said
> | that he had seen it happen on another carrier a few years ago.  Need to
> | investigate this possibility further.
> |
> | Thanks for the inputs so far.  Every little bit helps.
> |
> | Les
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |
> | > "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | > news:spCdnasiuuNcuznYnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >> Nick, thanks for the response.  But, please re-read my post
> especially
> | >> this paragraph.
> | >>
> | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc and
> with
> | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
> direct
> | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
> buzz
> | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
> heard
> | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
> Nothing
> | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
> | >>
> | >> I am still puzzled???
> | >>
> | >> TIA
> | >>
> | >> Les
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>> Do you have a RJ31x  ESSEX DSL filter
> | >>> I have found DSL screws with up load down load.tones
> | >>> and by having the rj block filter it stops it.
> | >>> Also did they add sattelite dish some times the cable and or dish
> box
> | >>> has a phone connection that will screw with phone line as well was
> this
> | >>> recently added.
> | >>> Worse comes to worse take all phones off gray brown telco wires and
> try
> | >>> download to see if problem is with in house wiring or comming in
> from
> | >>> pole .
> | >>> I have seen DSL cause all kinds of strange problems even when you
> think
> | >>> you have everything filtered and some one adds an exstension etc and
> | >>> does not do it right.
> | >>> DSC modems are very suseptable to dsl
> | >>>
> | >>> "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> | >>> news:9eGdnTRdTcwxgDnYnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | >>>> Had a strange occurrence today with a customers phone line that is
> | >>>> still un-resolved.  Thought I would share and see if anyone has any
> | >>>> hints as to what's going on.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Customer has one phone line.
> | >>>> Standard set up with RJ31X.
> | >>>> Phone line has DSL
> | >>>> DSL Filters installed.
> | >>>> System Communicates Signals to CS, all good
> | >>>> Normal phones in house with Answering Machine and CID Box
> | >>>> Previous connection for UpDownload OK.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Problem comes up when I try to connect to panel remotely.  Panel
> will
> | >>>> hang and then disconnect.  Went to site today and used my laptop to
> | >>>> connect to the panel thru my "private phone company in a box" which
> | >>>> would be the same as connecting over the phone line.  Connection is
> | >>>> good and data transferred as it should.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Connected my Butt Set to the phone line and dialed with my cell
> phone
> | >>>> to trigger the panel to answer, Answering Machine Bypass function
> | >>>> enabled. While listening to the amplified speaker I heard what
> sounded
> | >>>> like a modem answering with a carrier tone after the first ring.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc and
> with
> | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
> direct
> | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
> buzz
> | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
> heard
> | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
> Nothing
> | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> It is as if another modem or panel is on the line and connecting on
> the
> | >>>> first ring but not answering the call.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Has anyone experienced anything like this and/or what the blazes is
> it
> | >>>> or could it be?????????   I ran out of time to investigate it
> further
> | >>>> on site with voltages, current, etc. but it seems very strange.
> Any
> | >>>> thoughts from the masses would be welcome.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Thanks,
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Les
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>>
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>
> | >>
> | >
> | >
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