Re: Strange Phone Line Issue

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Personally on my Vista problem I have a feeling Ademko packaged a
proprietary panel as a normal one,  but won't own up to it.



"ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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| Basically I was so surprised by what I had discovered that I did not have
| time to think out a troubleshooting procedure.  I will return and do some
| serious data acquisition later so that the diagnoses can be made.
|
| That's a whole lot of BS to say:         "I'll check it later."
|
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|
| > What's the voltage on the line?
| >
| > I've had problem with voltage drop on rural service.
| >
| > I even have a Vista 15 that even though the voltage is good it does the
| > same
| > thing you describe (fortunately he's a local) but I can't remote program
| > and
| > never did find out what the prob was...probably noise but I don't have
| > tools
| > to measure that.
| >
| >
| > "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > news:SI2dnUdZd-vMoDnYnZ2dnUVZ_t6qnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | >I thought the telco system sent the caller ID data between 1st and
2nd
| > | >ring. Maybe that is what you heard?
| > |
| > | I have never heard the CID before on any other line as I did on this
| > one.
| > | It really sounds like a modem carrier for about 1 second.  I turned
off
| > the
| > | CID on the line and tried again just to check and got the same result.
| > | Although now that I think about it when I turned it off that was for
| > | outgoing calls.
| > |
| > | I had a conversation with an associate earlier and he said that it
maybe
| > | possible that Verizon has another line crossed onto this line pair.
He
| > said
| > | that he had seen it happen on another carrier a few years ago.  Need
to
| > | investigate this possibility further.
| > |
| > | Thanks for the inputs so far.  Every little bit helps.
| > |
| > | Les
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | > "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | > news:spCdnasiuuNcuznYnZ2dnUVZ_q6vnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | >> Nick, thanks for the response.  But, please re-read my post
| > especially
| > | >> this paragraph.
| > | >>
| > | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc and
| > with
| > | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
| > direct
| > | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
| > buzz
| > | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
| > heard
| > | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
| > Nothing
| > | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
| > | >>
| > | >> I am still puzzled???
| > | >>
| > | >> TIA
| > | >>
| > | >> Les
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >>> Do you have a RJ31x  ESSEX DSL filter
| > | >>> I have found DSL screws with up load down load.tones
| > | >>> and by having the rj block filter it stops it.
| > | >>> Also did they add sattelite dish some times the cable and or dish
| > box
| > | >>> has a phone connection that will screw with phone line as well was
| > this
| > | >>> recently added.
| > | >>> Worse comes to worse take all phones off gray brown telco wires
and
| > try
| > | >>> download to see if problem is with in house wiring or comming in
| > from
| > | >>> pole .
| > | >>> I have seen DSL cause all kinds of strange problems even when you
| > think
| > | >>> you have everything filtered and some one adds an exstension etc
and
| > | >>> does not do it right.
| > | >>> DSC modems are very suseptable to dsl
| > | >>>
| > | >>> "ABLE_1" <royboynospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | >>> news:9eGdnTRdTcwxgDnYnZ2dnUVZ_segnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | >>>> Had a strange occurrence today with a customers phone line that
is
| > | >>>> still un-resolved.  Thought I would share and see if anyone has
any
| > | >>>> hints as to what's going on.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Customer has one phone line.
| > | >>>> Standard set up with RJ31X.
| > | >>>> Phone line has DSL
| > | >>>> DSL Filters installed.
| > | >>>> System Communicates Signals to CS, all good
| > | >>>> Normal phones in house with Answering Machine and CID Box
| > | >>>> Previous connection for UpDownload OK.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Problem comes up when I try to connect to panel remotely.  Panel
| > will
| > | >>>> hang and then disconnect.  Went to site today and used my laptop
to
| > | >>>> connect to the panel thru my "private phone company in a box"
which
| > | >>>> would be the same as connecting over the phone line.  Connection
is
| > | >>>> good and data transferred as it should.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Connected my Butt Set to the phone line and dialed with my cell
| > phone
| > | >>>> to trigger the panel to answer, Answering Machine Bypass function
| > | >>>> enabled. While listening to the amplified speaker I heard what
| > sounded
| > | >>>> like a modem answering with a carrier tone after the first ring.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> To bring this narrative ahead a bit, I ended up at the demarc and
| > with
| > | >>>> the house, panel and all disconnected so that I was connected
| > direct
| > | >>>> from the CO and the following was observed.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> On the speaker of the butt set just before the 1st ring a small
| > buzz
| > | >>>> click was heard and then after the first ring a carrier tone is
| > heard
| > | >>>> for about 1 second and then a pause and then the next ring.
| > Nothing
| > | >>>> else is heard except for normal rings after that.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> It is as if another modem or panel is on the line and connecting
on
| > the
| > | >>>> first ring but not answering the call.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Has anyone experienced anything like this and/or what the blazes
is
| > it
| > | >>>> or could it be?????????   I ran out of time to investigate it
| > further
| > | >>>> on site with voltages, current, etc. but it seems very strange.
| > Any
| > | >>>> thoughts from the masses would be welcome.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Thanks,
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Les
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
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| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>
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